Chicago Bears hire Matt Eberflus

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The 2 aren't mutual exclusive. Some teams need a defensive minded coach, some need an offensive. Chicago needs offense as they have always had a solid defense. Are you upset that some are rooting for more black head coaches? Don''t get your gripe.

Yeah thats exactly my gripe. You're a try hard son of a bytch I swear.
All im saying is the OC hire matters for a young qb. Along with the qb putting in the work.
If Flores was hired all yall would be like as long as he hires a good OC its all that matters. And you know thatd be the theme of the thread.
I just hate fake agendas and thats what yall got
 

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So this great genius from KC(where have I heard that before) hires a defensive coordinator as HC when the main issue last year was a terrible O-line, a terrible run game, and awful offensive playcalling. This franchise just sucks
 

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Hold up let’s be real. McCaskey already said he has final say over things and I doubt they let this Poles dude make a hire within 2 days of being hired himself. This has Halas Hall bullshyt all over ot
 

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Yeah thats exactly my gripe. You're a try hard son of a bytch I swear.
All im saying is the OC hire matters for a young qb. Along with the qb putting in the work.
If Flores was hired all yall would be like as long as he hires a good OC its all that matters. And you know thatd be the theme of the thread.
I just hate fake agendas and thats what yall got
Flores wouldn't be a good fit in Chicago.
 

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EB aint never gonna get a gig. If Leftwich dont get the Jacksonville job, he wont ever get one either. We gonna be back to having one black head coach and then they gonna fake act like its a issue when you had 8 damn openings this offseason. League is gonna be close to 80% black, with a "Rooney Rule" and the only black coach is from the team Rooney owned.
It's way too early to jump to that conclusion.

Leftwich's name just sprouted as a potential coaching candidate this season.

Also, his coaching career has been progressing quite nicely.....and it's no guarantee he'll take the Jacksonville job if it's offered. Just bide his time instead of settled for the first offer that comes his way.
 

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So Harbaugh back to UMich, then? If you buy that Stephen Ross is a man of his word (:patrice:) and that LV will/should promote Rich B., don't see many other options. Unless MIN or for some reason NO suddenly decide to jump in.
 

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A HC is going to lend his knowledge to the side of the ball he specializes in. McVay used to openly say he didn't care what his DC did and just left it to him. Herbert had Lynn at first, so even if you don't believe in Lynn's ability to coach, there was going to be some offense related development going on while he was HC. If we're really being honest about Herbert he regressed as he went through THIS year and more people got an understanding of what they were doing. McDermott got Daboll which is the primary reason Allen became Allen. Allen needed to be developed out of college. Allen's next step is going to be determined by who McDermott gets to replace Daboll.

It can be done no matter what their, a former DC won't have specific understanding on how a QB is developing until he sees the results, but a former OC will know during the process of teaching in the meeting rooms and can course correct if they see problems. Both of them can pick bad OC's and that's where the underdeveloping happens, but you have a better chance with making sure a young QB learns fundamentals correctly with a former OC. Beli developed Brady, but Pete stunted Russ' growth a bit because he just kept the offense conservative as shyt and relied on Russ occasionally being a magician.

Of course a HC is gonna lend knowledge and a coach who.can sit and explain thing from a defensive pov so the qb that knows defense can be just as helpful.
And a counterpoint to your McVay if the HC is hands off with the other side of the ball doesn't that just mean the OC hire is just that important cause he spending the most time with him?
 

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Flores wouldn't be a good fit in Chicago.

Did I say he would be a good fit? No.
I said you got guys in this thread who are saying why hire a defensive coach in this day in age and folks bouncing round this forum clamoring for someone to pick up Flores its the agendas im against. Knowing damn well it woulda been black excellence post all up in through here if Flores was the guy tone of the thread would be completely different and nobody saying some why they hire a defensive coach.
All I want is nikkas to keep it a buck round here
 

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He's a 4-3 guy which already means he'll get more meaningful snaps out a Khalil Mack who is near the end of his prime and Roquan Smith who is probably more effective as an elephant. He needs to bring in a legitimate offensive staff.+
 

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Of course a HC is gonna lend knowledge and a coach who.can sit and explain thing from a defensive pov so the qb that knows defense can be just as helpful.
And a counterpoint to your McVay if the HC is hands off with the other side of the ball doesn't that just mean the OC hire is just that important cause he spending the most time with him?
The OC always matters regardless of who the HC is, but for a young QB, if the development is going badly/wrong, a former OC is going to have experience to directly make adjustments to the plan meanwhile a former DC only has the option to ask the OC to make the playbook more conservative or just straight up fire the guy or bench/trade the QB.

People are saying Flores, but I think he'd be a bad hire as well for a young QB, specifically because that's how his story worked in Miami. When Tua went badly, and the FO took away Fitz to prevent him from benching Tua, the only tactic he was able to employ was wanting to trade the QB/yell at him/reduce the offense to simple as shyt. For a 2nd year QB this hire should've been Caldwell even if it was understood that it was a caretaker role that could become more if he overachieved. Caldwell would've put everything in place to make sure Fields had the base in place to become a competent QB and if the OC he hired wasn't up to the task he could literally do it himself.
 

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Hiring a defensive minded coach when you've got a young QB who has to be salvaged seems like a bad decision. Same thing going on with the Giants...if my goal is to see if I can fix Daniel Jones, why would I hire a defensive minded coach like Frazier or Flores?

Daboll seems like the best guy for teams like the Bears, Jags, and Giants but he can only go one place.
The Giants aren't hiring a coach for Daniel Jones. They're blowing it all up and rebuilding.
 

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The OC always matters regardless of who the HC is, but for a young QB, if the development is going badly/wrong, a former OC is going to have experience to directly make adjustments to the plan meanwhile a former DC only has the option to ask the OC to make the playbook more conservative or just straight up fire the guy or bench/trade the QB.

People are saying Flores, but I think he'd be a bad hire as well for a young QB, specifically because that's how his story worked in Miami. When Tua went badly, and the FO took away Fitz to prevent him from benching Tua, the only tactic he was able to employ was wanting to trade the QB/yell at him/reduce the offense to simple as shyt. For a 2nd year QB this hire should've been Caldwell even if it was understood that it was a caretaker role that could become more if he overachieved. Caldwell would've put everything in place to make sure Fields had the base in place to become a competent QB and if the OC he hired wasn't up to the task he could literally do it himself.
Seemed like a no brainer to hire Caldwell but we know the elephant in the room.
 
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