Chicago has had 500 homicides in 2016

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It's absolutely a policing issue
How so?
 

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What are people suggesting by blaming the police? :what:
Someone mentioned how NYC doesn't have this problem.....well duh NYC is a fukking POLICE STATE known for racist police department, draconian gun laws, stop and frisk, and has multiple instances of police shooting innocent black men 30+ times. In NYC a black person can literally be arrested for being in too nice of a neighborhood (Louis gates).
That's what y'all want in Chicago? That's basically saying the only solution is putting some white overseers in our community to control us because we too dumb/wild to solve it ourselves. :snoop:


The issues are def caused by racism. It's a reason most of these gangs are in a certain defined area. But the solution to racist issue is never going come from the institutions that created the problem in the first place :heh:
Ultimately this shyt is on US to figure out :yeshrug:
 

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I still wanna know why Chicago gettin all this attention when it's nowhere near as bad as Detroit or St. Louis out here?:patrice:

The real problem in Chicago is the corrupt politicians and police force.
Probably because it's the 3rd biggest city in the country. Detroit and St. Louis ain't even top 20

If LA or NYC were doing record numbers in homicides you'd be hearing about it too
 

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Probably because it's the 3rd biggest city in the country. Detroit and St. Louis ain't even top 20

If LA or NYC were doing record numbers in homicides you'd be hearing about it too
Chicago isn't doing record numbers tho....

Baltimore is doing record numbers.
Camden NJ is doing record numbers
Stockton CA and Memphis, TN etc..

Chicagos numbers are still the lowest they been in years.

Hell just in the early 2000s Chicago was getting almost 700 murders a year.
 

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I still wanna know why Chicago gettin all this attention when it's nowhere near as bad as Detroit or St. Louis out here?:patrice:

The real problem in Chicago is the corrupt politicians and police force.
yea they gotta account for all the robbing and killing, looking the other way etc. that cops do,
but still 500 bodies
 

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So the coli hates law enforcement but now is crying for law enforcement to police these neighborhoods again? :mjlol:

Surprise surprise
 

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Doesn't chi have like 3 mill ppl? I don't get it. The uproar should be in St louis, bmore, newark, NO, etc...
It depends. Where are the murders occurring? Are they concentrated in neighborhoods or certain parts of the city? Context matters.
 

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I appreciate the history lesson (not really), but when yall nikkas gonna quit trying to compare the past and "what ifs" to now? Guess what my nikka? We dont live then...but we are here now. Police this. CAC that. Government this. Blah fukkin blah. Everybody has choices, no matter what environment you were born into. So we gonna keep on with the bullshyt or finally admit that we have major problems within our communities?


Please point out where I put the blame solely on the government and police, I blame the gang subculture and dumb nikkas several times. And you do realize cpd brought down their stops and frisk rates 90% this year right? And this is Chicago's deadliest year in 20 years. You think that is coincidence or what?:skip: this was by design.


What are people suggesting by blaming the police? :what:
Someone mentioned how NYC doesn't have this problem.....well duh NYC is a fukking POLICE STATE known for racist police department, draconian gun laws, stop and frisk, and has multiple instances of police shooting innocent black men 30+ times. In NYC a black person can literally be arrested for being in too nice of a neighborhood (Louis gates).
That's what y'all want in Chicago? That's basically saying the only solution is putting some white overseers in our community to control us because we too dumb/wild to solve it ourselves. :snoop:


The issues are def caused by racism. It's a reason most of these gangs are in a certain defined area. But the solution to racist issue is never going come from the institutions that created the problem in the first place :heh:
Ultimately this shyt is on US to figure out :yeshrug:



Chicago's police are inept compared to other PDs. They are not a police force fit for a world class city like Chicago. LA and NYC got their insane rates down, and unfortunately it was due to no holds barred policing. It's the harsh truth.:yeshrug: You expect these gangs virtually at war to just stop?

you sheltered coli nikkas kumbaya shyt isn't going to work.
 

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It depends. Where are the murders occurring? Are they concentrated in neighborhoods or certain parts of the city? Context matters.

Right. It happens in impoverished areas in all the cities mentioned and yes Chi had way more population in impoverished areas then the cities I mentioned...

Apples to apples breh
 

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It's purposeful negligence, Chicago is one of the biggest and most important cities in the world, hence why it gets the spotlight vs all those other cities with higher per capita rates . That police department has a budget the size of a small country. They've even said it themselves it's a relatively small groups causing the havoc. They could lock that city down if they wanted to .Think NYC in the 90s war zone, now look at it.

I personally also don't believe this whole "bbbbut the gang culture is different" "bbbbut all the leaders got locked up" . They simply have no interest in those black lives right now. We have heard time and time again if dozens of whites were dieing there they would send in the national guard.


What's my solution?

-double the amount of foot patrols by police
-higher more minorities as police
-unlimited OT for the police
-have police officer doing community engagement at all the local middle/ high-school
-double the number of after school centers
-build career/ mentorship program to get these young people off the streets
-increase the amount of prison time you get for gun crimes/ implement a three strikes rule (post billboards with this info)
-apply Rico laws for gangs (post billboards with this info)
-start and sustain community watch programs
-triple the budget for all local social service agency
-increase budget for post prison work programs

Etc etc I can go on and but it boils down to increasing consequences while at the same time giving the community a abundance of resource to prevent delinquency
 

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Still blaming the police, huh? First it's fukk the police, now it's "we need them to come protect nikkaz from other nikkaz." Y'all want it both ways. nikkaz don't know what they want. How about nikkaz stop shooting people??
 

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Still blaming the police, huh? First it's fukk the police, now it's "we need them to come protect nikkaz from other nikkaz." Y'all want it both ways. nikkaz don't know what they want. How about nikkaz stop shooting people??




You can say fukk the police and still know they gotta job to do nikka it ain't hard:skip:. Police stops are down 90% compared to last year( Chicago Police Stops Down By 90 Percent As Gun Violence Skyrockets). Fact is when the city got tired of CPDs bullshyt and their backs were against the wall they fukking folded. They're straight up cowards at this point. No better at policing than the gangs are at being law abiding citizens.

And shyt you're the one thinking gangs are going to magically stop shooting eachother when they're literally at war:skip:. Every person killed breeds more killers. You sheltered coli nikkas thinking is just unrealistic on all fronts.
 
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