CHIEF KEEF'S BROTHER SHOT IN THE HEAD!

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mental sickness rooted from all those other elements is the cause of everything. this is always considered when a white dude shoots up a school, but when it comes to gang violence the public just wants to chalk it up to rap music, the attitude of the present generation and throw it in the bushes

conditioning + circumstance will always contribute to the actions of the person. the music is nothing but the reflection. all the youngsters who are into the music are nothing more than the group of people who already suffer from the sickness. if it wasnt keef it would be another trap/drill rapper. it does not matter, they just a piece of the whole jacked up puzzle

its really as simple as biggie put it, these dudes cant rap about what they are not familiar with. if you from a hood, you grow up in violence. you see nothing but liquor stores and cell phone shops with barber shops and beauty salons. you are conditioned to believe that since you are from that area this is how you act out.

go to any predominantly white school, the sickness is there as well, but it is reflected in a different manner because those people feel privileged.hell young white kids probably listen to more rap music than most of us on here. yet they not acting out on it, why? because their parents have productivity happening in their lives. they are taught that since they are from their area they have opportunities and something to look forward to. they have educational systems that teach them properly and prepare them for leadership rather inner city school systems who just teach these kids how to pass test so the funding can continue coming from the government.

when we can get past the chief keef shyt and understand is much bigger than him, and stop with the head shaking and understand them shorties aint shyt but victims of they environment, then all of this will make sense.

but since the problems are plaguing the community carry no weight with literally anybody anymore, and the acceptance of homosexuality seems to have more of a concern in this country than how black kids getting education, then we can expect a lot more years of this.


you're overthinking. it's not much bigger than this glorification of poisonous rap that celebrated gang culture and diminishes the value of human life in chicago. yes, there is a sickness, but that illness is one that can be considerably mitigated by embracing a more positive outlook and detaching from a musical culture that is making idols out of killers. i'm sorry, but your argument isn't convincing, on any sociological and psychological level. you cannot tell me, after watching video after video after video of young black chicago boys wielding guns and spewing death chants, that this music is not contributing to the carnage in chicago's streets.

you mean well, i'm sure, but your argument seems to be excusing the harmful effects of the music. if you wake up to music celebrating death, you will eventually celebrate death, save for those exceptions that manage to make it out from under the heel of that violence.
 

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you're overthinking. it's not much bigger than this glorification of poisonous rap that celebrated gang culture and diminishes the value of human life in chicago. yes, there is a sickness, but that illness is one that can be considerably mitigated by embracing a more positive outlook and detaching from a musical culture that is making idols out of killers. i'm sorry, but your argument isn't convincing, on any sociological and psychological level. you cannot tell me, after watching video after video after video of young black chicago boys wielding guns and spewing death chants, that this music is not contributing to the death in chicago's streets.

you sound just like these crackas,str8 up..speaking from the outside lookin in..until you've actually been in & around THIS(chicago) environment, in the hood, then you wouldn't understand..

gangbanging out here starts EARLY..you have uncles & cousins & their friends that like to shake up wit LIL KIDS, like 3 & 4 yr olds,and have'em throwin up gang signs like its cute..and im sayin this becuz i've witnessed it plenty of times..this shyt ain't got nuthin to do wit music, like fam said its nothin more then a reflection of a deeper problem

we've had more murders in this city WAY BEFORE this drill music even started
 

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you're overthinking. it's not much bigger than this glorification of poisonous rap that celebrated gang culture and diminishes the value of human life in chicago. yes, there is a sickness, but that illness is one that can be considerably mitigated by embracing a more positive outlook and detaching from a musical culture that is making idols out of killers. i'm sorry, but your argument isn't convincing, on any sociological and psychological level. you cannot tell me, after watching video after video after video of young black chicago boys wielding guns and spewing death chants, that this music is not contributing to the carnage in chicago's streets.

you mean well, i'm sure, but your argument seems to be excusing the harmful effects of the music. if you wake up to music celebrating death, you will eventually celebrate death, save for those exceptions that manage to make it out from under the heel of that violence.

A lot of these gangs that those kids rep in those videos youre watching have been on the street since the 50's and 60's. Back when Motown and love ballads were the popular music among the youth .

My point is that This is a generational thing that probably wont end anytime soon. You can't focus too much on their music that they make

EDIT: I'm not defending drill music I'm just saying that this is definitely not the cause of the problem. And That's all I'll say about this topic
 
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you sound just like these crackas,str8 up..speaking from the outside lookin in..until you've actually been in & around THIS(chicago) environment, in the hood, then you wouldn't understand..

gangbanging out here starts EARLY..you have uncles & cousins & their friends that like to shake up wit LIL KIDS, like 3 & 4 yr olds,and have'em throwin up gang signs like its cute..and im sayin this becuz i've witnessed it plenty of times..this shyt ain't got nuthin to do wit music, like fam said its nothin more then a reflection of a deeper problem

we've had more murders in this city WAY BEFORE this drill music even started

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nikka, i was a street nikka who made a lot of money in the streets. but i don't fukk with that banging shyt, because i'm smart enough to know that money doesn't come when bodies are dropping. i also don't make excuses. i don't care how early it started. stop it NOW. people like you are feeding into this self-fulfilling prophecy bullshyt of "well, this is it how it is, so there's no stopping it."

nah. that doesn't fly with anyone using their brain. if you want to stop, you STOP it. you don't glorify it. you don't make heroes out of killers of young black boys who could have escaped those chicago streets and made something of themselves. you don't give an audience to nikkas spewing music that celebrates YOUR people in chicago dropping in the streets. everything thing you're saying is met by :wtf: on this end.
 
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A lot of these gangs that those kids rep in those videos youre watching have been on the street since the 50's and 60's. Back when Motown and love ballads were the popular music among the youth .

My point is that This is a generational thing that probably wont end anytime soon. You can't focus too much on their music that they make

EDIT: I'm not defending drill music I'm just saying that this is definitely not the cause of the problem. And That's all I'll say about this topic

i don't deny that problems have existed since the beginning of time. but there comes a point when you realize that it's probably not that smart to douse a burning house with gasoline. that's what i consider this drill music in chicago to be: gasoline thrown on an inferno.

you people can say it's deeper than rap. but that doesn't excuse the effects of the rap itself. by continuing to excuse the criminally negligent music coming from these artists, you're only exacerbating the problem, instead of meeting it headon with positive solutions.
 

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nikka, i was a street nikka who made a lot of money in the streets. but i don't fukk with that banging shyt, because i'm smart enough to know that money doesn't come when bodies are dropping. i also don't make excuses. i don't care how early it started. stop it NOW. people like you are feeding into this self-fulfilling prophecy bullshyt of "well, this is it how it is, so there's no stopping it."

nah. that doesn't fly with anyone using their brain. if you want to stop, you STOP it. you don't glorify it. you don't make heroes out of killers of young black boys who could have escaped those chicago streets and made something of themselves. you don't give an audience to nikkas spewing music that celebrates YOUR people in chicago dropping in the streets. everything thing you're saying is met by :wtf: on this end.

You don't understand something... banging doesn't *stop* that easily, these conflicts have been going on for generations, there's too much bad blood in it. There won't be any peace talks, family members have been killed over gangbanging... people grew up in this and it's all they know.

You can't just *stop* this. This is nowhere near as easy as you seem to think it is.


i don't deny that problems have existed since the beginning of time. but there comes a point when you realize that it's probably not that smart to douse a burning house with gasoline. that's what i consider this drill music in chicago to be: gasoline thrown on an inferno.

you people can say it's deeper than rap. but that doesn't excuse the effects of the rap itself. by continuing to excuse the criminally negligent music coming from these artists, you're only exacerbating the problem, instead of meeting it headon with positive solutions.


Rap Music isn't helping, but it's not making things much worse than they would be otherwise. Crime came before rap, poverty came before rap, gangs came before rap.

Outside of rap, people have lived in the hood and have gone through so much suffering over gangs. It's all about the gangs and poverty, and rap is just background music, honestly.
 

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nikka, i was a street nikka who made a lot of money in the streets. but i don't fukk with that banging shyt, because i'm smart enough to know that money doesn't come when bodies are dropping. i also don't make excuses. i don't care how early it started. stop it NOW. people like you are feeding into this self-fulfilling prophecy bullshyt of "well, this is it how it is, so there's no stopping it."

nah. that doesn't fly with anyone using their brain. if you want to stop, you STOP it. you don't glorify it. you don't make heroes out of killers of young black boys who could have escaped those chicago streets and made something of themselves. you don't give an audience to nikkas spewing music that celebrates YOUR people in chicago dropping in the streets. everything thing you're saying is met by :wtf: on this end.

:rudy: show me where i said that its no stopping it? i said its a deeper problem then music..you tryna twist a nikka words around to fit whateva bs point you tryna get across..just like what them crackas be doin :snoop:

and if you not from LA or Chicago then whateva gang life you witnessed was more then likely just a fad or sum trendy shyt
 
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:rudy: show me where i said that its no stopping it? i said its a deeper problem then music..you tryna twist a nikka words around to fit whateva bs point you tryna get across..just like what them crackas be doin :snoop:

and if you not from LA or Chicago then whateva gang life you witnessed was more then likely just a fad

i wouldn't even pretend to know what it's like to live around constant gang hostilities. i'm saying that, why can't the people of chicago start somewhere? when i see those videos from artists in chicago, i observe black men and women celebrating "music" that has become a soundtrack to the needless death of so many black boys in that city.

these people are :dj2: to the destruction of their community. change isn't easy, and it doesn't come overnight. it's the result of bold and courageous people saying, "enough is enough." i believe that a GREAT start would be the youth of chicago saying "NO" to that bullshyt music.
 

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And it's not like people are doing absolutely nothing about the issue. I mean hell every other week it seems like there's some sort of "Stop the Violence march" with Jesse Jackson and Father Pfleger (if you from Chicago then you've heard of him) but that does absolutely nothing.
 

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i wouldn't even pretend to know what it's like to live around constant gang hostilities. i'm saying that, why can't the people of chicago start somewhere? when i see those videos from artists in chicago, i observe black men and women celebrating "music" that has become a soundtrack to the needless death of so many black boys in that city.

these people are :dj2: to the destruction of their community. change isn't easy, and it doesn't come overnight. it's the result of bold and courageous people saying, "enough is enough." i believe that a GREAT start would be the youth of chicago saying "NO" to that bullshyt music.

Best thing to do is make that culture play itself out and make it wack in their eyes, like old fashion. Need more people like Loaded Lux spitting that raw ether to them and make cats open their eyes.
 

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Look, the music aint the problem... not by a long shot. I aint no Keef fan, but that nicca is simply a reflection of the problem, not the problem itself...

With that said...

"When i pull the gun out, all the cowards'll flee cuz they cant front if they lose the power to breath..." - Lupe the Gawd
 
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And it's not like people are doing absolutely nothing about the issue. I mean hell every other week it seems like there's some sort of "Stop the Violence march" with Jesse Jackson and Father Pfleger (if you from Chicago then you've heard of him) but that does absolutely nothing.

i know who pfleger is. obama has been tied to him, since pfleger -- a white man -- has spoken at the same church that rev. jeremiah wright gave his sermons. unfortunately, these kids aren't going to listen to those old heads. that's why i said it needs to be a bold and courageous move by someone within that culture. that's how much of the gang violence ended in LA. the bloods and crips saw what they were doing and decided that the bloodshed was too much. they came together and put an end to it. yes, there are still pockets of violence between the sects, but the gang wars of LA are in the past.

the same came be said of chicago, if enough people from all sides come together and recognize how destructive this violence is to the mobility of chicago's black community. they are literally killing their future.
 
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