Child Support card that can only be spent on the child; Women are against it

[MrFantastic]

Any sane person would be. The question is...how many women are actually doing this? And if many are what tweaks need to be made to the system to benefit the child.

Most women are..maybe not weave and nails but on most cases Child support is extra money for them.

Most women fall in four categories:
1. They make little money. They recieve assistance for almost all facets of life. They pay for nothing. Problem is none fo that matter in child support. If this woman is on section 8, welfare,healthcare, and wic all the child expenses are basically paid. The man still pays for it as if it isn't covered.

2. They woman only qualify for some of assistance. She make 30k a year but she don't pay for food, healtcare or childcare She only pay rent or mortgage. So the child support helps but she still have extramoney at the end as the only bills occurred are her own.

3. The woman Who not on any assistance.
She making 50k and above. Your money is just extra.

4. The married women. She make money and she married. The husband income doesn't matter to child support. Your money is extra to the household.

Other than #2..your money is always extra. What do you think she spending that money on?

Tweaks I would make. Stop allowing child support to be used as ordinary income. It's unfair to be able to use it as income but not be taxed.

Second if assistance is given make the primary fill out a budget for the cost of what it takes to raise the child. If it is approved by the court make the secondary caregiver pay he/she percentage of that budget.

Third. The person paying child support should have the option to pay their portion onto a card so that person can spend the money they pay for child support how they like ir directly to the primary person..Money the primary needs for necessities can go directly to them but money for clothes, education and misc can go onto a card that the secondary person can spend how they lIke. That way the child knows the secondary paid for this.

 

[Yup]

Most women are..maybe not weave and nails but on most cases Child support is extra money for them.

Most women fall in four categories:
1. They make little money. They recieve assistance for almost all facets of life. They pay for nothing. Problem is none fo that matter in child support. If this woman is on section 8, welfare,healthcare, and wic all the child expenses are basically paid. The man still pays for it as if it isn't covered.

2. They woman only qualify for some of assistance. She make 30k a year but she don't pay for food, healtcare or childcare She only pay rent or mortgage. So the child support helps but she still have extramoney at the end as the only bills occurred are her own.

3. The woman Who not on any assistance.
She making 50k and above. Your money is just extra.

4. The married women. She make money and she married. The husband income doesn't matter to child support. Your money is extra to the household.

Other than #2..your money is always extra. What do you think she spending that money on?

Tweaks I would make. Stop allowing child support to be used as ordinary income. It's unfair to be able to use it as income but not be taxed.

Second if assistance is given make the primary fill out a budget for the cost of what it takes to raise the child. If it is approved by the court make the secondary caregiver pay he/she percentage of that budget.

Third. The person paying child support should have the option to pay their portion onto a card so that person can spend the money they pay for child support how they like ir directly to the primary person..Money the primary needs for necessities can go directly to them but money for clothes, education and misc can go onto a card that the secondary person can spend how they lIke. That way the child knows the secondary paid for this.

Most women is a stretch...since you have nothing to back this up but your word. I do know that just because child support is owed ...it doesn't mean it is paid or even on time. Meanwhile, expenses still need to be paid.

 

[Numpsay]

The increased costs mainly goes to the custodial parent...that child support helps bridge the gap between a child living with a single parent and one in a household where both bringing in income

Edit: and the noncustodial parent does have some financial responsibility to help care for the child that's half theirs...providing a home lights transportation etc are a part of that cost

Again you are continuing to ignore the increased cost the noncustodial also has to pay to take care of their child when they are in custody. Father's can't just move into a home big enough for the child on weekend. Both parents have to upkeep a dwelling for the kid, so why is one also responsible for helping the other do so when they also have to do the same thing?


You think kids come with food, clothes, vouchers for weekend/summer activities etc when they go with the non custodial? Should the custodial be providing any of those things since they are rightfully owed assistance for it in your eyes. Should I ask my daughter's mother to drop something on our Disney world trip next year or is that totally my responsibility. I mean we both made this child and our daughter will enjoy it so she should have to put in right. What about the increased cost to my groceries and bills etc when the child is in my possession on weekends, school holidays and during the summer?

Why is the line only drawn when it comes to the custodial parent, where in most cases is the mother. I'd bet money if the father was granted custody on a normal bases we'd have less child support cases.

 

[Yup]

Again you are continuing to ignore the increased cost the noncustodial also has to pay to take care of their child when they are in custody. Father's can't just move into a home big enough for the child on weekend. Both parents have to upkeep a dwelling for the kid, so why is one also responsible for helping the other do so when they also have to do the same thing?


You think kids come with food, clothes, vouchers for weekend/summer activities etc when they go with the non custodial? Should the custodial be providing any of those things since they are rightfully owed assistance for it in your eyes. Should I ask my daughter's mother to drop something on our Disney world trip next year or is that totally my responsibility. I mean we both made this child and our daughter will enjoy it so she should have to put in right. What about the increased cost to my groceries and bills etc when the child is in my possession on weekends, school holidays and during the summer?

Why is the line only drawn when it comes to the custodial parent, where in most cases is the mother. I'd bet money if the father was granted custody on a normal bases we'd have less child support cases.

Who has the child the most?

 

[Numpsay]

Who has the child the most?

Roughly 65/35 in her favor.

 

[Yup]

Roughly 65/35 in her favor.

Well then...the parent who is living with the child is the one with an increase of expenses. Men who live with their children can attest that on average child support pales in comparison to having a child live with you and dramatically impedes on your social life. If i was to do a poll of whether men would like to improve the child support system vs wanting full custody i wonder which will men choose especially if he is single and doesnt a wife/girlfriend play surrogate mother.

 

[BrothaZay]

Well then...the parent who is living with the child is the one with an increase of expenses.

Man can you shut the fukk up

 

[Yup]

Man can you shut the fukk up

I will when you have intelligent arguments.

 

[BrothaZay]

I will when you have intelligent arguments.

I do have one

 

[Yup]

I do have one

Claiming and providing said arguments are two differnt things.

 

[BrothaZay]

Claiming and providing said arguments are two differnt things.

eat a dicc

 

[Yup]

eat a dicc

It's not a dish that i partake. I am sure you can share your experience.

 

[Numpsay]

Well then...the parent who is living with the child is the one with an increase of expenses. Men who live with their children can attest that on average child support pales in comparison to having a child live with you and dramatically impedes on your social life. If i was to do a poll of whether men would like to improve the child support system vs wanting full custody i wonder which will men choose especially if he is single and doesnt a wife/girlfriend play surrogate mother.

What are you basing your opinion on? In my situation the amount I pay to her mother would more than compensate increase cost to me on a monthly basis when I have her for the entire summer. Also most men I know would elect for custody.

some of you are really out of touch when it comes to this.

 

[Spatial Paradox]

I always jump to the end of long threads just to see how they've turned out and if they've went left. Especially with topics like this

So to see this as the first post on the last page so far...

This is such a frustrating thread to read.

 

[JamilALAmin]

The men make valid points but their vindictiveness blind them from the reality of what it takes to raise a child.

That's a 2 way street boo. Women in here making good points but their vindictive streak blinds them from seeing the struggle that single Dad's go thru taking care of they own house but also taking care of a house they don't even reside in. Like I said before, both sides have fault in this. We not gonna be able to move forward as a people unless we both acknowledge our faults and try to work towards something better. Real shyt we a team in this ma. If you don't do good then I don't do good and neither one of us will win