Chris Brown needs direction and a new team...a lot of this shyt ain't cutting it - UPDATE: He admits it

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He had hits in 2005, he’s a legacy act
So what was go crazy , no guidance and under the influence ?

Song with wiz kid and lojay might be radio hits but they ring off .

Man y’all really love to down play people .

I don’t rock with Chris new shyt like that either but he still puts out hits .
 

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He's a legacy act at this point, no? Nothing wrong with that necessarily, as we see you can still make a ton of money on tour as such,

But he's not playing in the same sandbox as the top "relevant" R&B acts anymore. Considering he's been around for more than 15 years now, that's kind of to be expected.

I wouldn't call him legacy just yet.

Hes still the most popular male R&B act out right now by far.
 

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He's a legacy act at this point, no? Nothing wrong with that necessarily, as we see you can still make a ton of money on tour as such,

But he's not playing in the same sandbox as the top "relevant" R&B acts anymore. Considering he's been around for more than 15 years now, that's kind of to be expected.
he is tho, no r&b male is doing more #'s than him. he gets more streams than the top r&b girl, summer. only relevant semi-r&b acts beating him are crossover acts who are in their artistic prime - SZA, weeknd, and bruno
 

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So what was go crazy , no guidance and under the influence ?

Song with wiz kid and lojay might be radio hits but they ring off .

Man y’all really love to down play people .

I don’t rock with Chris new shyt like that either but he still puts out hits .

Go look at my post on the 2nd page from months ago, I said the same thing you’re saying now.

Calling somebody a legacy act isn’t ‘downplaying’ then. part of that just means that some people won’t check for Chris browns 9th album immediately when they can check Don tolliver’s 2nd, SZA’s 2nd, etc doesn’t mean the music isn’t good
 

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Doesn’t really matter. He puts up numbers no other R&B guy can.
I'll be honest with you...I go to parties etc...and no one is playing his new shyt. It's all more indie and Soundcloud type artists....R&B is thriving and Chris ain't in the mix
 

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So what was go crazy , no guidance and under the influence ?

Song with wiz kid and lojay might be radio hits but they ring off .

Man y’all really love to down play people .

I don’t rock with Chris new shyt like that either but he still puts out hits .
Those songs would be fine without chris. even the Wizkid song. He's not bringing audience there...People are coming for the Afrobeats, NOT Chris brown.
 

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I think you’re right, he needs a team to guide him like top pop stars do, he tryna do his own shyt it’s not working out, he might be musically talented, but the creativity is missing, he needs direction career wise

We can’t ignore it anymore
Male r&b is redundant

Radio isn’t based on ignoring people. It’s about placements, based on industry relationships, of songs that are created for the specific purpose of serving to uphold a platform for advertisement


What else do you know that is a platform for advertisements …. Perhaps a, billboard ….

He needs an entirely new production team. All of his shyt sounds the same. Trap hihats. Ambient pads. Mid tempo. The same regurgitated formulas spewed by all of these r&b artist these days. The last time I heard some R&B shyt that sounded different and got my attention was that Doechii chick. Breezy needs to hook up with anybody else to forge some new creative concepts and music. Brandy/Darkchild. Aaliyah/Timbaland/Missy. Hell, anybody else. He needs to experiment with different styles. His music is always the same. No growth at all.

It’s an algorithm based industry now, and enough people don’t wanna see him win now that the rithms won’t do him any favors.

He’ll keep putting out a lot of music and he’ll keep having a song that cuts through and turns into a big song every 2-3 years, it is what it is :yeshrug:

I think it’s pretty simple.

When you get on a major and have a big budget behind you, you get not only a great production team but access to the industry’s best writers. When you no longer have said budget & connections, the writers go away as well.

Katy Perry, Whitney Houston, Rihanna, Lorde, Madonna, list goes on for the pop/R&B acts that had not only catchy songs but a solid cohesive album because of the team of writers/production they were gifted.

After Chris turned Rihanna into roadkill all that went away. Idk if they’d be open to it but he should hit up Jimmy Jam & Lewis.

chris is reductive and has really plateaued musically. He's too talented to be so lost, musically.. I wished he'd have an OG to help him focus. I wasn't a fan of that last Drake album, but I salute the hustle and creative in him to continue to experiment/push himself. He should take his time to flesh out his ideas more. HNM had a lot of nice elementes that just didn't solidify into something 'great' IMO. I think Bey's team or even Kendrick's team can help him with that. That Parkwood/TDE camp knows how to execute a concept.

2019 Under the Influence charted this year at like 36...

Could do a stripped down album, all acoustic, or Afrobeats album.

I LEGIT WANT TO KNOW WHAT UNIVERSE YALL LIVE IN :mindblown:

THAT SONG IS NEAR 3 YEARS OLD :what:

Chris has classic songs....but his shyt is just 2 damn vulgar and ignorant....none of his classics are like that :manny:

He just ain't a creative cat:manny:

Music as a whole isn't as creative anymore, everyone is adopting that trap sounding stuff in their music and it all sounds the same.

I really liked jaquee's album from last year....tory lanez dropped some heat 2....chris just needs a good executive producer and he's outta here

Dude has a ton of good songs and cameos

But when it comes to albums themselves, shyt is like Megan thee stallion.. same ass tracks

This supposed to be the next MJ

All he sings about is p*ssy and not in a creative way. It gets old fast.

I'm a CB fan. CB got many hit songs, but way too many filler tracks on he's albums. I doubt he will ever make a solid album like a Thriller.

It doesn't matter anyway, music nowadays is about having a hot single that will play on tik tok, IG, club, ads, concerts etc

he literally admitted he puts out too much mid



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