Christians create the annoying atheists that they hate so much.

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Once again, you just show you don't understand God.
oh, but you do?

oh and:



Every 1+1=2 involves God because without God there is no 1 of whatever. :heh:
Prove this.

This is why I keep telling you there would be no point debating you because your understanding is so juvenile it would be like explaining rocket science to an infant.
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God is who set it all in motion. I referenced the puppet and the puppeteer earlier. You said "prove there's a puppeteer." :comeon:

Prove it.

Whether I prove it or not there is still a puppeteer.
ok. so prove it.

And if that puppet happens to do a math demonstration using his hands, putting 1 and 1 together to show 2, guess what? The puppeteer is in that equation.
OK. Prove it.
So no matter what scientific "proof" you bring to the table it's still under God.
Prove it

That's why every point you've ever tried to make in any of these discussions has been worthless. Because you don't understand what we're even talking about.
And all you do is presuppose god in everything without actually demonstrating god is there.
 

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So why do you feel the need to try those who have looked at the evidence which is not enough for YOU but enough for them?

Because that doesn't establish if something is true or not.

Having a low standard of evidence (most religious people) doesn't mean anything.

Do you know why the director of the NIH, Francis Collins, is a born again christian?

He was out on a hike and saw a frozen waterfall that froze in 3 parts.

And you know what he thought of?

The "Holy Trinity"

Get the fukk outta here.
 

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What am I deflecting, breh? I answered every question you asked me until you said I was making stuff up.

Ok, if that's how you feel, this simple stuff must be too complex for you. Why would I continue with deeper concepts? You're obviously not trying to hear. :yeshrug:

Again, I answered every question you asked me.

And I don't need to explain or run from explaining anything to you. Either way it's whatever. This thread ain't about me, breh.

Wrong.

Someone not agreeing with you doesn't mean you're right. You actually have to convince people what you're saying is right.

All you have done is assert that since people don't agree with you, that therefore they just are misunderstanding you...
its never that YOU aren't doing enough to make better arguments.
 

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oh, but you do?

:leon: Yes, I have a very firm understanding. I've dedicated decades to studying all facets of theology, including atheism, agnostic-atheism and many other points of view. I've read many texts from many lands so I feel extremely confident in my understanding.

I'm not talking about gods, I'm talking about God. If you have to ask which one you don't know what I'm talking about. Simple as that. :yeshrug:

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Prove this.
Prove it.
ok. so prove it.
OK. Prove it.
Prove it

:mjlol:

And all you do is presuppose god in everything without actually demonstrating god is there.

God is either there or not. It makes more logical sense to me that He is. So while you hypocritically presume God is NOT in everything I would question your logical reasoning behind that. That's if I were debating you :heh:. But I'm not because based on the stuff you say you seem to have a very primitive understanding of the whole topic. How can you effectively reason logically if you don't really know what we're talking about. :mindblown:


Wrong.

Someone not agreeing with you doesn't mean you're right. You actually have to convince people what you're saying is right.

All you have done is assert that since people don't agree with you, that therefore they just are misunderstanding you...its never that YOU aren't doing enough to make better arguments.

But I haven't made any arguments in this thread. All I've really done is ask you to prove things you've said. :heh: Which you still haven't done. :ufdup:

So he knows I was going to be an agnostic-atheist :obama:

Yes! This is the most intelligent thing I've ever seen you post. If you wanna know something about God, that's one thing. God knows everything about you, past present and future. Cradle to the grave, your every action and thought. God knows all. Everything. Now don't be predictable and say your famous line. Understand this is a part of the definition of God. You wanna talk about God but you don't know about God. I'm telling you something so you can understand what we're talking about.

Earlier I told OP that God had no beginning and end. That's part of the description of God. It's not about "proving" it's about understanding what we're talking about. You can't say something doesn't exist if you don't even know the description or function of that thing.

But just because you believe what you believe now doesn't mean you won't believe something different later. Especially with more understanding. You seem to have an agenda at this point in your life and no true interest in learning anything. Closed mindedness is the opposite of learnedness. It is what ignorance is to knowledge.
 

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YOU are hung up on the "who"

You literally made pages of arguments defending "oh well dawkins says" :beli:

You have crossed what I have said. Let me straighten it out for you. You brought up who during my post to tmonster about the different arguments in science as to God's finger print. Now you are trying to switch that to cover Dawkins. I didn't bring him in until I asked about your beliefs.
 

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