Who has ever thought Supreme Clientele to be in Illmatic range?
Why The Groundbreaking ‘Supreme Clientele’ Should Always Be In The Discussion For Best Rap Album Ever
Why The Groundbreaking ‘Supreme Clientele’ Should Always Be In The Discussion For Best Rap Album Ever
nikkas know about Supreme Clientele. Method Man thinks it's probably the best solo Wu album. Apparently Vibe Magazine said it was top 10 rap albums of all time but I can't find a direct link.
Ghostface Killah
I bet anyone would look at Cherchez LaGhost or Stroke of Death and think they were significantly weaker tracks than the rest of the album.
Stop it. Any Wu-tang fan that doesn't see the genius in Stroke of Death is not a Wu-tang fan. Respectfully. It's easily one of the best tracks on the entire album. and on a long list of best tracks Wu ever recorded. In fact, for the last year or so, it's been my favorite track off the album.
Cherchez La Ghost is super dope, too. I still hear that joint now and then when I go out.
Illmatic doesn't have that, that's why it is head and shoulders above any other album.
Illmatic has no forced radio play and filler. Neither does SC (we can argue about the skits but there is no filler song on the entire album. Every single track on there is 9-10/10). Cherchez is not forced radio play. and it absolutely fits with the vibe of the album, especially after Child's Play.
Also, Illmatic is seen as brilliant because every single track stands on its own. No track bleeds into another because the production varies a lot (while being cohesive). Same with SC.
Meanwhile, with AMW and DC, there are tracks that bleed into each other. I don't remember them because they're not memorable. And frankly, that tends to happen when you have one producer who handles an entire album. shyt starts sounding the same after a while.
I don't personally agree with that valuation, but let's be real, that's how it is. By mentioning SC, you're clearly using your own preference to make an argument, but reject mine when I mention AMW and DC.
nah. You're trying too hard with Supreme Clientele. What you consider to be an easy target to show my so-called logical inconsistency when the fact of the matter is that SC could easily be considered to be one of the greatest rap albums ever.
This bolded logic is incredibly flawed. Illmatic is one album, we aren't trying to work out the sum of greater parts. Let's say you acknowledge AMW is a classic, which you have. If Cube released two of those albums identically, he'd have 2 classics. And you think Illmatic > AMW, right? But still, Cube would have 2 classics and Nas would have 1. So it's possible.
nah. Because I think AMW and DC are noticeably flawed. There are a lot of tracks between those two albums that I don't like and that no one plays anywhere imo. However, because of the impact Cube had, and the fact that he's basically the west coast KRS, I can give him one classic. AMW is half a classic, and DC is half a classic. Which makes 1.
That was my reasoning.
To me, a classic is the pinnacle of the artform. If I was to introduce someone to hip hop, the best of the best. I wouldn't have them listen to both AMW and DC. They can get to it later but I'd pick one of the two.
Nas isn't the artist known for having numerous classics, that isn't his thing. A handful of artists have better discographies tbh.
I disagree. If you add up Nas's greatest album cuts with his greatest unreleased/rare stuff, he probably has the best discography in hip hop ever. Him and Jay-Z are at the top in sheer volume of great songs. I'm not sure who comes next after them.
