Classics Discussion: Mobb Deep & Big Pun

[Inspect Her Deck]

Ok so some of y'all will be familiar with a project I'm deciding to run. I made this thread: The Official 'Classic Album' Discussion Thread, trying to reach a conclusion as to what defines a classic album. After much discussion, I am running with this definition personally, so take it as you will when you consider your classic albums. But this definition in particular was most agreed upon.

Classic: 1. An album considered by consensus of the core hip hop community to be of the highest quality (doesn't have to be perfect or flawless, just an album that the consensus deems the shyt).
2. Assuming that condition 1 is met, is this an album that has stood the test of time amongst the core hip hop community? Is that an album still held in high regard, still referenced at least ten years after its release? By a consensus of the hip hop community?

Props to @mobbinfms for the definition and also for his help generally in helping me with ideas to create these threads.

So I'll be going through one artist per day, and I will list out all their discography or close to all of it until the year 2005, as we decided that an album needs at least 10 years of existence before it can be called a classic or not.

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To help bring even more attention to these threads, I'm gonna create a hashtag (again props to mobbinfms for the idea) and I urge you guys to click on the tag and click on the option to watch the tag.

Here it is: #coliclassics

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Today we got the Mobb crimey and Big Pun. Let the voting begin!

I will be making a POLL. For each album I will present a YES or NO option so if you think that particular album is a classic, you click 'yes' on the poll for THAT album and vice-versa. The acceptance rate for an album to be deemed a CERTIFIED classic is 80%.

If you don't think an album is a classic, DO NOT LEAVE THE POLL BLANK. You vote NO for that album instead so at least we register your vote.

I will NOT count any comments in the thread as votes, you must use the poll. The comments section should be used for discussion only.

Tagging some mods:

@FreshAIG @That Singer Guy... @hustlemania @houston911 @SoulController

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Voted only for The Infamous FOR NOW. Unsure about Capital Punishment and Hell on Earth...

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

voted infamous & hell on earth

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Hell on Earth for me has all the makings of a classic in quality, but what else does it bring to the table?

Capital Punishment I'm actually gonna change my vote to yes upon reflection.

 

[Farrinto]

Infamous - Yes
HOE - Yes
Everything else - no

 

[NasirJr]

Voted only for The Infamous FOR NOW. Unsure about Capital Punishment and Hell on Earth...

How the hell are you unsure about Hell on Earth? Hell on Earth is better than the infamous

I voted for HOE, Infamous and Capital Punishment

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

How the hell are you unsure about Hell on Earth? Hell on Earth is better than the infamous

I voted for HOE, Infamous and Capital Punishment

first of all....no

secondly, i never questioned its quality. but a classic is more than just a quality album. what else does it bring to the table in the same way The Infamous did? impact? relevance? influence?

 

[JuvenileHell]

The Infamous is the only tier 0 classic in the list. Hell On Earth is a classic too, but it doesn't have the same magic that The Infamous did. Shook Ones is the difference between those two albums.

 

[Ohene]

Murda muzik classic fukk yall

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Who voted NO for The Infamous?



reveal yourself...

 

[Farrinto]

Who voted no on The Infamous? I don't even see how an argument could be made that it's not a classic. It's the only non-arguable one on here.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

can the two fakkits saying no to The Infamous please reveal themselves?

I'm SO curious to hear an explanation for this....

 

[NasirJr]

first of all....no

secondly, i never questioned its quality. but a classic is more than just a quality album. what else does it bring to the table in the same way The Infamous did? impact? relevance? influence?

Ok it did not have the impact like infamous because infamous has shook ones but quality wise HOE is stronger. nikka the verses P was laying, the album was way more consistent, nikka drop a gem on em is a classic diss. How ya'll nikkas gonna say hell on earth isn't a classic without question

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Ok it did not have the impact like infamous because infamous has shook ones but quality wise HOE is stronger. nikka the verses P was laying, the album was way more consistent, nikka drop a gem on em is a classic diss. How ya'll nikkas gonna say hell on earth isn't a classic without question

I agree the rapping was better. But I said notwithstanding the quality, which is up there with classic albums, what else does it bring to the table? What impact did it have? What relevance and acknowledgement does it have over time?

Why is it more than just a very dope record?

 

[arel]

ppl said infamous not a classic. am crine.



voted yes on infamous, hell on earth, n capital punishment (4drekkid).