So is the next bit:
Depends on how you rank those statistics. Some bumfukk redneck town is probably the best in the country with such cherry-picked stats. Is it really the greatest? No, it isn't.
You are incorrect.
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To trying to big up Cleveland way more than it is, all I have to say is: People play Call Of Duty. Men like fat women. People like Cleveland.![]()

And Solon, Ohio a suburb of Cleveland was named the third best city to live in, in the entire country. So what makes them better citys to live in?
Cleveland is not very known in POP CULTURE. But we are known worldwide for business and manufacturing. Plenty of worldwide business were started here or have there home offices here. Progressive insurance and the nestle corporation were founded in cleveland just to name a few. The company I work for ships airplane parts all over the world and was named on the Forbes top 100 small companies list.
Two united states presidents were born in Cleveland, 6 in Ohio, I think were doin pretty good on that front.
Presidents are people. Tourists come from all over the country and the world to see the rock n roll HOF. Cleveland clinic is known worldwide and consistently tops the best hospitals lists. The Cleveland museums of art and natural history are also some of the best in the country. The Cleveland zoo, Neil Armstrong,Thomas Edison, JOHN HEISMAN. The list goes on and on and on.
Meechthemonster needs to be banned![]()

Building a medical mart... How many bytches is nurses and/or in the medical industry? Not to mention Cleveland Clinic is one of the best in the nation.. Oh, yea. What that casino like? Already top 5 in the country on poker tables? Not to mention our suburbs shyt all over the country. nikkas never been to my city trying to hate on my cityThe same nikkas... As soon as I step in your town and say i'm from Cleveland, you shut the fukk up and bow down cause i'm a Cleveland nikka.
ass nikkas
knock it off.Dawg I'm from cleveland tooknock it off.
I can stay out all night every night if I choose to, having bytches doing lines off my dikk so why should I knock it off? You should venture out more... Unless you're not into that type of thingI'm not talking about those statistics I'm talking about worldwide influence, and respect. Countries send there kings and queesns for treatment at the Cleveland clinic. I explained it in my other post that you seem to have ignored here it is again.

Larry Bird was not better than Pippen when the Bulls started their title run. Bird could barely even move. And even if i did give you Bird, thats one year during 6 title runs that Bird was there. Kobe was better than anyone LeBron ever played with on the Cavs, easily. During the 2nd title run Kobe was clearly option 1B.
The other people i named are legit great players. Anderson Verajeo, Mo Williams, JJ Hickson, Delonte West, Ilgauskus, etc... are not and never would be under any circumstance.
I swear the greatest con Jordan has going is that he won those titles alone. The only person who can attempt to make that claim is Hakeem for the Rockets 1st championship.
happens all the time people become great AFTER success, doesn't mean they were or weren't great before just nobody cared untill they found success. Just like Lebron as much as he's proven over these 9 years. People are hesitant to give him props untill he gets a ring.I'm not talking about those statistics I'm talking about worldwide influence, and respect. Countries send there kings and queesns for treatment at the Cleveland clinic. I explained it in my other post that you seem to have ignored here it is again.

And Solon, Ohio a suburb of Cleveland was named the third best city to live in, in the entire country.
So what makes them better citys to live in?
Cleveland is not very known in POP CULTURE.
But we are known worldwide for business and manufacturing.
Plenty of worldwide business were started here or have there home offices here.
Progressive insurance and the nestle corporation were founded in cleveland just to name a few.

The company I work for ships airplane parts all over the world and was named on the Forbes top 100 small companies list.

Two united states presidents were born in Cleveland, 6 in Ohio, I think were doin pretty good on that front.

Presidents are people. Tourists come from all over the country and the world to see the rock n roll HOF.
Cleveland clinic is known worldwide and consistently tops the best hospitals lists.
The Cleveland museums of art and natural history are also some of the best in the country.

The Cleveland zoo
Neil Armstrong
Thomas Edison
JOHN HEISMAN. The list goes on and on and on.
^^^^^^ all provable tangible attributes that most cities can not stand up to.

So now we're rejecting stats when it doesn't fall in your favor?
But fine, I'll tackle that post.
If this were true, it does not fall in with making Cleveland any better Solon is a suburb, not a part of the city of Cleveland. Likewise, Hoffman Estates Illinoisis one of the better places to live in America, on top of its wealth prestige, but it doesn't boost Chicago's capabilities. Why? It's a suburb - not a part of the city.
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This is how I know you know nothing about Cleveland. Our suburbs are very much apart of the city. We have great places to raise families, which is why a lot of the athletes move back here after their career is over or just stay here. I'm not saying we're the best place in the world but we're damn sure not the worst
So now we're rejecting stats when it doesn't fall in your favor?
But fine, I'll tackle that post.
If this were true, it does not fall in with making Cleveland any better Solon is a suburb, not a part of the city of Cleveland. Likewise, Hoffman Estates Illinoisis one of the better places to live in America, on top of its wealth prestige, but it doesn't boost Chicago's capabilities. Why? It's a suburb - not a part of the city.
What you think makes Cleveland great is amplified tenfold in other cities. In actuality, Cleveland is pathetic. I take it you have not really gone places oor read too many books.
Even greatness has the tendency to be well known. Detroit, Chicago, hell even Milwaukee thanks to its beer business. Cleveland had Drew Cary and LeBron James to put them on the map, but neither turned out to be good for the city.
Not really true (fame and pop culture would go hand in hand) but otherwise, many cities do it much better.
Many cities do it much better.
No U.S. Presidents were born in the city of Cleveland.
Many cities do it better.
Cleveland has good medical there, but there are plenty of places with stronger medical programs.
What's sad is even Detroit had a better museum. I've been to both.
Didn't go there, wouldn't know.
Wasn't born there, but had some ties.
Wasn't born there & also a known patent troll.
The list also gets weaker and weaker.
Most cities don't; they trample over Cleveland's position.
Don't go dismissing facts either. If you need sources, I can get them when I come back.![]()

Cleveland is a global city, and a better place to live than Chicago. More jobs, less crime







wtf is in cleveland? i'm intrigued...see my face --------->
Building a medical mart... How many bytches is nurses and/or in the medical industry? Not to mention Cleveland Clinic is one of the best in the nation.. Oh, yea. What that casino like? Already top 5 in the country on poker tables? Not to mention our suburbs shyt all over the country. nikkas never been to my city trying to hate on my cityThe same nikkas... As soon as I step in your town and say i'm from Cleveland, you shut the fukk up and bow down cause i'm a Cleveland nikka.
ass nikkas
but it wasn't lebron's job to recruit....he asked the front office.....granted they DID try to get him good players, i'll give them that, but it just didn't work out i guess. And yes, Jordan did carry his teams to win, but lets not act like Pippen wasn't right there, and until now lebron hasn't played with anyone who was even HALF the talent Pip was.
I understand that Cle was upset, as they should be, but they should be upset with HOW lebron handled it instead of the actual choice he made....but you guys HAD to know it was coming....who has a "tv show"/press conf saying they are staying????
nikka i'm from britain and I want to go to Chicago. I actually know 7 people from seperate groups of friends that have gone...
I have never met anyone...ANYONE on google earf that has gone to cleveland or said they wanted to. Cleveland is noway near a global city
American global cities are
LA
Las Vegas
California
New York
Chicago
Washington
Miami
and at a push San Fransisco
GET DEE FUKK OUUTA HEAUUUUR with cleveland being one of themwtf is in cleveland? i'm intrigued...see my face --------->
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So now we're rejecting stats when it doesn't fall in your favor?
But fine, I'll tackle that post.
If this were true, it does not fall in with making Cleveland any better Solon is a suburb, not a part of the city of Cleveland. Likewise, Hoffman Estates Illinoisis one of the better places to live in America, on top of its wealth prestige, but it doesn't boost Chicago's capabilities. Why? It's a suburb - not a part of the city.
What you think makes Cleveland great is amplified tenfold in other cities. In actuality, Cleveland is pathetic. I take it you have not really gone places oor read too many books.
Even greatness has the tendency to be well known. Detroit, Chicago, hell even Milwaukee thanks to its beer business. Cleveland had Drew Cary and LeBron James to put them on the map, but neither turned out to be good for the city.
Not really true (fame and pop culture would go hand in hand) but otherwise, many cities do it much better.
Many cities do it much better.
No U.S. Presidents were born in the city of Cleveland.
Many cities do it better.
Cleveland has good medical there, but there are plenty of places with stronger medical programs.
What's sad is even Detroit had a better museum. I've been to both.
Didn't go there, wouldn't know.
Wasn't born there, but had some ties.
Wasn't born there & also a known patent troll.
The list also gets weaker and weaker.
Most cities don't; they trample over Cleveland's position.
Don't go dismissing facts either. If you need sources, I can get them when I come back.![]()