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which reminds me my favorite thing is when Push or Malice oversell one of their mid to totally wack lines and then someone comes through with a twitter image to explain a basic bar. "you was fugee la la, I was alibaba/dressed in house of gucci made from sellin lady gaga"
:mjlol: :mjlol: :mjlol:

"drugs killed my teen spirit, welcome to nirvana"

I saw someone throw a pic of kurt cobain up like that was some wild lyrical flip that went over heads
:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

Cornball cocaine rap in 2025 is wild
U one of the goat posters on here but imma have to disagree on Malice. I feel like he deserves more credit than that. Son always spoke from a more grounded perspective which is why I always preferred him to Pusha. I mean Jay is FAR removed from that life and damn near only exclusively drops a verse when it’s with a drug related rapper at this point.
 

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U can do what u wanna do with ur personal list. But that nikka is a pretentious dikkhead who fell for his own hype and is indeed. Scared to rap. And as far as the Pharrell and Chad thing. U wrong about that. Pharrell has mad plenty with minimal Chad input. Even some of their Neptunes shyt. It would be Neptune’s productions where Pharrell handled the damn grunt work for the song including writing the hook for the artist. I’ve literally watched Pharrell cook up dolo. How many dolo Chad productions is out there? And as far as Timbo. That nikka has a production team himself and damn near always has. Doesn’t mean he’s not HIM. Pharrell still out here working. That’s why he gets his flowers. He not living off his name.

Wrong. I was applying the Andre comparison to Pharrell because the media credits Pharrell with work done with Chad as The Neptunes. On the same token, the smae media credits Andre 3000 as if he was the only member of Outkast. That is wrong.

And Timbaland didn't come in the game with a production team. Pharrell was 1/2 of a duo for most of his career. Timbaland has these to his credit where he didn't have a "team" or co-producer:

Aaliyah- One In A Million
Ginuwine- The Bachelor
Ginuwine- 100%

The first few Missy albums, his work with Jay Z, Nas, Ludacris, Petey Pablo, Bubba Sparxxx, the first few Timbaland & Magoo albums.

Show me Pharrell's catalog without Chad. He doesn't have a an album that's commercially successful and more importantly critically successful without Chad.

And yes, Pharrell is living off The Neptunes name. Nothing wrong with that until people act like he did it by himself. He didn't.
 

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Wrong. I was applying the Andre comparison to Pharrell because the media credits Pharrell with work done with Chad as The Neptunes. On the same token, the smae media credits Andre 3000 as if he was the only member of Outkast. That is wrong.

And Timbaland didn't come in the game with a production team. Pharrell was 1/2 of a duo for most of his career. Timbaland has these to his credit where he didn't have a "team" or co-producer:

Aaliyah- One In A Million
Ginuwine- The Bachelor
Ginuwine- 100%

The first few Missy albums, his work with Jay Z, Nas, Ludacris, Petey Pablo, Bubba Sparxxx, the first few Timbaland & Magoo albums.

Show me Pharrell's catalog without Chad. He doesn't have a an album that's commercially successful and more importantly critically successful without Chad.

And yes, Pharrell is living off The Neptunes name. Nothing wrong with that until people act like he did it by himself. He didn't.
Son Pharrell has HIT records without Chad. Where’s Chad’s hit records without Pharrell? Pharrell has produced major albums without Chad. Where’s Chad’s major albums he produced without Pharrell? Kenna’s first joint? lol. Come on my guy. Pharrell gets alotta credit because the nikka wasn’t only producing with the group. He was writing majority of the music. He also was an artist himself. He both sang and rapped. Chad is private and played the background and played instruments. U can’t blame Pharrell for that. He can get credit for work HE DID with the group. There’s nothing wrong with that. Chad isn’t visible. He’s not there to get shine. If he was. He would too. When Neptunes were at their peak both of them got their credit. Chad was def very vital and Neptunes creating their sound. I will NEVER take that away. That still doesn’t change the fact that Pharrell is a BIG reason Neptunes got as known as they did. He carried a lot of the weight on his shoulders and I hate that people try to discredit him like he was some salesman and Chad was the real talent of the group when that shyt ain’t true. They had their roles. Pharrell would literally make a whole beat and Chad would come in and change some soundsm, add some things and spice it up.
 

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Son Pharrell has HIT records without Chad. Where’s Chad’s hit records without Pharrell? Pharrell has produced major albums without Chad. Where’s Chad’s major albums he produced without Pharrell? Kenna’s first joint? lol. Come on my guy. Pharrell gets alotta credit because the nikka wasn’t only producing with the group. He was writing majority of the music. He also was an artist himself. He both sang and rapped. Chad is private and played the background and played instruments. U can’t blame Pharrell for that. He can get credit for work HE DID with the group. There’s nothing wrong with that. Chad isn’t visible. He’s not there to get shine. If he was. He would too. When Neptunes were at their peak both of them got their credit. Chad was def very vital and Neptunes creating their sound. I will NEVER take that away. That still doesn’t change the fact that Pharrell is a BIG reason Neptunes got as known as they did. He carried a lot of the weight on his shoulders and I hate that people try to discredit him like he was some salesman and Chad was the real talent of the group when that shyt ain’t true. They had their roles. Pharrell would literally make a whole beat and Chad would come in and change some soundsm, add some things and spice it up.

For starters, Chad was the instrumentation and Pharrell was the drums, melodies, hooks, and bridges. Chad also took a hiatus. He isn't as accessible and is far more reclusive than Pharrell. So he's not going to be sought after. Pharrell is also an artist. So other artists are going to Pharrell for more than beats because hooks/choruses and even verses are part of his genius.

That said, Chad's solo work, while dope is missing Pharrell. On the same token, Pharrell's solo beats sound hollow and empty without Chad or the added instrumentation.
 

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For starters, Chad was the instrumentation and Pharrell was the drums, melodies, hooks, and bridges. Chad also took a hiatus. He isn't as accessible and is far more reclusive than Pharrell. So he's not going to be sought after. Pharrell is also an artist. So other artists are going to Pharrell for more than beats because hooks/choruses and even verses are part of his genius.

That said, Chad's solo work, while dope is missing Pharrell. On the same token, Pharrell's solo beats sound hollow and empty without Chad or the added instrumentation.
Bro u literally just repeated everything I said to u. I’m glad u agree with me. They both are goats but Pharrell can more than hold his own without Chad. Can’t really say the same about Chad tho. He hasn’t proven it. shyt at this point I wouldn’t be mad if nikkas started calling Big Boi “OutKast”. The nikka the only one who wanna work. 😂
 

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Bro u literally just repeated everything I said to u. I’m glad u agree with me. They both are goats but Pharrell can more than hold his own without Chad. Can’t really say the same about Chad tho. He hasn’t proven it. shyt at this point I wouldn’t be mad if nikkas started calling Big Boi “OutKast”. The nikka the only one who wanna work. 😂

We aren't in agreement though. Pharrell does more because he's an artist. Chad is not. Chad is proven. He has solo production credits, but they are album cuts or are from lesser known artists.

It would be as wrong to refer to Big Boi as Outkast as it would Andre 3000. Andre 3000 may not be rapping, but he is still releasing music.
 
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Read this article on what he contributes to the music and what he does


Producing as part of The Neptunes. What’s the division of labour?

“Well, it’s always a 50% thing. When we started out recording I was the guy with the equipment. And over the years I came to be overseeing the sound palette… Adding beats and drops. Fixing frequencies here and there with the engineer. Maybe some tonalities. I look after the technical stuff. I’d take that responsibility. But it’s whatever the vibe is. We all have our influences and the music we listen to. It’s whatever I can bring to the table for a particular project.”


Tell me about writing as a team. What’s the dynamic there? How does that work?

“Depends on how you look at it. I’ll spend time ‘off hours’ with the engineer. We’re loading sounds and chopping up drum samples. A lot of time is spent on that. And for me, I like to keep up with chord changes. Even to this day I’m still learning chord changes and chord progressions. If you had a chord progression I’d be like ‘Tell me what this is, it’s awesome’. Let’s share this moment so we can play the song together.”


Now on the album It’s Almost Dry, he’s credited on the “Scrape It Off”. But if you remember, before the album was released, it was said to be produced half by The Neptunes and half produced by Kanye. Once the album came out, there was tracks credited to Pharrell but not The Neptunes

I don’t know if all the credits for that album have since been corrected, but once the album came out and Chad Hugo was being interviewed by Vulture and was asked about his involvement with the album, this was said:


I was looking over the credits for Pusha T’s album It’s Almost Dry, and I didn’t see you in there?

“I was involved in that record, to be honest with you. We’re trying to work that out.”

Was there a mix-up with the credits?

“I guess you could call it that.”

Would you call it something else?

“We made some tunes. There were some good vibes there. We recorded it in Florida at a boathouse studio. I played some keys here and there. I was present.”


Chad went into more detail about the making of It’s Almost Dry with Complex:


Pusha-T, ‘It’s Almost Dry’ (2022)

Chad Hugo: “
There were a lot of inspirations from Miami Vice and Joker. It wasn’t the blueprint, but just as far as vibe-wise. We recorded in the U.S. at the Boathouse Studio in Miami. Pusha wanted to shout out what was happening in Virginia locally, and I think that’s really cool. It’s good to be a part of the product and making the sound.

We aimed to [make] his rhyme scheme be cohesive with the beat and the rhythms. You can hear the way he’s rhyming with the drum. That was really important to Pusha, Pharrell, and myself, because a lot of the rhymes back in the day, we’d write on a piece of paper. But this was more in the pocket, as far as the unison of the rhythm. It was really important to get people moving in that regard. We were just really trying to stab with it and get real with it. I think it’s a communal experience when you vibe with the rhythms, and it’s a dance you do both mentally and verbally.

The weather was really nice. I remember Pharrell took us out on his friend’s yacht and we were playing tunes. I didn’t understand some of the stuff, like the one with Pharrell on the FedEx truck until later. I’ll be honest, I was getting really nauseous, like something’s really uneasy with this. It felt like I’m in one of those delirium movies where things are just blurry. But as Push was laying down his verse at this studio home, I saw the vision of what we were trying to convey.”


No, Chad didn’t help with Kendrick Lamar’s Alright or Mr. Morale songs, but he was apart of helping out with Blue Magic. He even spoke on the song Blue Magic song in that same Complex interview

Jay-Z f/ Pharrell, “Blue Magic” (2007)

“I think that was a Rakim flow he was paying homage to. I don’t know. I’m just probably picking up on it right now. The Frankenstein sample where he said, “It’s alive! It’s alive!” and the thunder. I remember being in for the mix and doing whatever. He released it right after I recorded it. It’s a great track and Jay-Z killed it… I need to go recap on American Gangster”
 

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@Awesome Wells @JustCKing stating facts :myman:


Some of y’all other posters just refuse to read and just be saying anything :mjlol:

Dude was always vocal and clear about what he did on their beats. Even Kelis used to speak about who did what on their production. Chad is an actual instrumentalist. So all that lush sh*t we hear on those classic Neptunes beats, and the dope chords on sh*t like "Frontin'", "Excuse Me Miss", "Get Along With You", "U Don’t Have To Call", "Beautiful", etc. That's Chad.

He's too overlooked, but with a GOAT discography. And that's because Pharrell likes being in the front. But Chad was the one that really made that Neptunes sound hit the way it did, musically.

 
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Dude was always vocal and clear about what he did on their beats. Even Kelis used to speak about who did what on their production. Chad is an actual instrumentalist. So all that lush sh*t we hear on those classic Neptunes beats, and the dope chords on sh*t like "Frontin'", "Excuse Me Miss", "Get Along With You", "U Don’t Have To Call", "Beautiful", etc. That's Chad.

He's too overlooked, but with a GOAT discography. And that's because Pharrell likes being in the front. But Chad was the one that really made that Neptunes sound hit the way it did, musically.



Yup :yes:

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3000 isn't scared to rap. He just doesn't want to drop a rap album. It isn't going to stop people from putting him in their Top 5's. And its not like we can be mad at him for not wanting to drop a rap album.

Andre 3000 is Top 5 for me. I got him up there behind Nas, and Pac and there's NOTHING you can do about it.
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which reminds me my favorite thing is when Push or Malice oversell one of their mid to totally wack lines and then someone comes through with a twitter image to explain a basic bar. "you was fugee la la, I was alibaba/dressed in house of gucci made from sellin lady gaga"
:mjlol: :mjlol: :mjlol:

"drugs killed my teen spirit, welcome to nirvana"

I saw someone throw a pic of kurt cobain up like that was some wild lyrical flip that went over heads
:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

Cornball cocaine rap in 2025 is wild
Your utter disdain for Push will always make me laugh.
 
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