Coli How do you feel about this (especially Coli Parents)

[Mountain]

Because I've already given them sufficient guidance, and I've fostered an open and honest relationship between them and myself. I don't feel threatened by weirdos or their potential influence on my kids because I've given them the tools they need to deal with the weirdos. Kids look for answers and guidance, if the parents don't offer it, they get it from somewhere else.

You're missing my point. Just because you've prepared your child well does not mean you should allow them to frequent the conditions you're preparing them against.

Sorry for using extreme examples, but you wont get my point otherwise, another example would be teaching your child physical self defence and then allowing your child to frequent enviroments you deem negetive (dangerous) because you've prepared him for it.

No my job as a parent is to teach them how to navigate the world around them. Parents fall victim of tying to protect their kids too much. That's why preachers daughters are freaks, because their dad keeps them away from any type of sexual images or conversations, so they don't know how to deal with their own sexuality and sexual urges. The parents didn't guide her on how to deal with sex so she lets some little knucklhead nikka guide her.

Emphasis on "to much", im not suggesting you should shelter your child, of course not, you should talk to them about the realities of life and prepare them in accordance, but i also think you should limit any negetive influences around that child as much as reasonably possible. In that way your preparing your child, whilst limiting his exposure to negetive things, isnt that an ideal mix?

@ the bolded no it's not like that at all. Saying a teacher will be transgendered is not the same as saying a teacher will push the lifestyle on my kids. I wouldn't let a teacher take my kid to a hetero pride parade either, both are equally inappropriate, and not good subject mater for teachers to discuss with kids.

How isnt it? To us a transexual parade is "weird", but apparently you're so confident in your parenting abilities that you trust your child around "weird" sht, so why would you not allow your child to go? (i wouldnt either, im asking for the sake of the discussion)

That's what I mean by giving them guidance. My kids would make their own decision that it would be a bad idea to accompany the teacher to the parade, or at least they would be confortable enough to talk to me about it. On the other hand if we just ran away from transgendered people every time we saw them my kid might be inclined to go check it out without talking to me about it

Again you're right, the sht is a reality, so we should prepare our kids for it, but at the same time you need to realise that children are not as mentally capable as you're making them out to be. No matter how well you prepare children, they minds are still highly impressionable, so logic dictates that we should keep them away from as many negetive influences we can, whilst prepering them for things they may face on their own.

I don't shelter my kids one bit. I let them see the world for what it is. It's a fukked up place and the sooner they realize that the better.

I agree breh, im not for sheltering kids, but at the same time im not for complete carelessness concerning what they are exposed to. There needs to be balance.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You're missing my point. Just because you've prepared your child well does not mean you should allow them to frequent the conditions you're preparing them against.

Sorry for using extreme examples, but you wont get my point otherwise, another example would be teaching your child physical self defence and then allowing your child to frequent enviroments you deem negetive (dangerous) because you've prepared him for it.

I get your point, but homosexuality isn't a threat to my child's well being. Yeah it's weird and ass backwards, but not dangerous or threatening. It's not the same as teaching them karate and throwing them to the wolves.

Emphasis on "to much", im not suggesting you should shelter your child, of course not, you should talk to them about the realities of life and prepare them in accordance, but i also think you should limit any negetive influences around that child as much as reasonably possible. In that way your preparing your child, whilst limiting his exposure to negetive things, isnt that an ideal mix?

I agree, I guess I just don't see homosexuality as a threat my kids are already not gay so there's nothing a homo dude can do to them.

How isnt it? To us a transexual parade is "weird", but apparently you're so confident in your parenting abilities that you trust your child around "weird" sht, so why would you not allow your child to go? (i wouldnt either, im asking for the sake of the discussion)

The difference is in one instance they are just "around" the weirdness in the other instance they are "participating" in the weirdness. i wouldnt allow the teacher to take them but If they were really adamant about going I'd go with them and offer the guidance they need.

I never suggested do that. Again you're right, the sht is a reality, so we should prepare our kids for it, but at the same time you need to realise that children are not as mentally capable as you're making them out to be. No matter how well you prepare children, they minds are still highly impressionable, so logic dictates that we should keep them away from as many negetive influences we can, whilst prepering them for things they may face on their own.

Do you have kids? Cause I totaly disagree with this statement. My daughter has been through deaths, illness, family fights, and plenty of other tough situations and she has always handled them well, sometimes better than me. I'll be struggling through explaining some shyt to her and she'll lay it out for me and have me looking at her like .

I agree breh, im not for sheltering kids, but at the same time im not for complete carelessness concerning what they are exposed to. There needs to be balance.

I don't view a transgendered teacher as complete carelessness, I guess that's where we disagree. Allowing my kid to hang out with that teacher at the gay parade would be careless in my opinion. As long as the teacher is teaching just math his/her appearance/sexuality shouldn't matter.

 

[feelosofer]

I don't really agree with this on the other hand, it's a teachable moment. It's time for us to be parents, this is the society we live in and it's up to us to guide our children down the right path in terms of gender roles and the like. I have no problem with this, kids see gay culture everyday, and I would rather my children grow up and be comfortable with themselves as opposed to seeing someone hide who they are and be miserable. I don't think this is as big a deal as people are making it out to be, these teachers are adults and many of them are cognizant of the impact they have on children and I believe they will handle this thing appropriately.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

there's nothing more that needs to be said between us.

....sounds like

 

[MadameMoreaux]

I think that some people are confused as to what being transgendered actually entails. The individual takes on the gender fully. It's not a part time job (you may be thinking of cross dressers). A transgendered female to male is not going to be referred to as "Ms. James"... He will be refered to as "Mr. James" and take on the identity of a man and all that it includes in both his personal and professional life. I have worked in many public schools and have encountered a couple of transgendered people (probably more, but two came out to me personally) and it was never an issue. Things like this are rarely an issue with kids because they haven't been conditioned to be as judgmental and biased as adults. Instead of worrying about members of the LGBT community teaching your children, you need to be more concerned with white racists teaching your children. I promise you, they are significantly more prevalent and its painfully obvious that they are intentionally teaching our children of color that they are inferior. Wake up people.

 

[Metta World Movement]

It's hilarious to see how many nikkas in this thread think they would have turned out gay if they ever saw a man in a dress during their childhood

 

[DrunkenNovice]

It's hilarious to see how many nikkas in this thread think they would have turned out gay if they ever saw a man in a dress during their childhood

Quote the post where someone said that breh.

 

[Metta World Movement]

Quote the post where someone said that breh.

Quote my post where I said someone SAID that, breh

 

[Super TD Jakes]

dog, when and if a parent chooses (or doesnt) to expose their child to this type of debauchary is something they alone should decide........

Just because some confused muthafukka thinks this type of shyt is and should be accepted by everyone does not give them the right to use the public education system as a tool in doing it............

Youre not going to mandatorily teach my kids no gay history and youre not going to be sanctioning a man dressing up as woman teaching him anything on my dime.

I dont need you to teach gay tolerance or intolerance......thats my job.

if you cant see the foolishness and the precedent that something like this sets then youre an idiot.

if you can't see that your hate and fear of gays will do nothing but attract gays or gay scenarios for you and your kids or future kids then you're the idiot...

 

[Seea]

I don't know if protections are the only answer; it's a lot of intolerance among people in general so they'll bring it to school too.

 

[JasonSJackson]

if you can't see that your hate and fear of gays will do nothing but attract gays or gay scenarios for you and your kids or future kids then you're the idiot...

 

[director_of_bands]

So are you and your kids gonna hide from the homos? Obviously they aren't going anywhere. You gone pull your kids outa every school that has gay teachers?

yep

 

[Swirv]

I don't any problem with it. Kids see weirdos everyday, it's up to the parents to offer the proper guidance on how to deal with these people.

Naw keep this shyt out of the babies education. Im sick of the lgbt community trying to shove their lifestyles in peoples faces now the children? Enough is enough man if they want to do whatever they do thats on them. But dont try to force feed this shyt into childrens curriculum because thats the next step.

I wouldnt let my kid stay in no school like that.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

yep

good luck with teaching your kids to run away from problems

Naw keep this shyt out of the babies education. Im sick of the lgbt community trying to shove their lifestyles in peoples faces now the children? Enough is enough man if they want to do whatever they do thats on them. But dont try to force feed this shyt into childrens curriculum because thats the next step.

I wouldnt let my kid stay in no school like that.

This story said nothing about forcing anything into the curriculum. It's not shoving their lifestyles in anyone's face. It's letting them work a job just like anyone else. As I said before, I don't condone the lifestyle, but I'm not apposed to them working and teaching students just like anyone else. Sure if they come to work talking about suckin dikks, that's a problem. But if they stick to the curriculum their sex or sexuality shouldn't matter.

 

[Swirv]

good luck with teaching your kids to run away from problems


This story said nothing about forcing anything into the curriculum. It's not shoving their lifestyles in anyone's face. It's letting them work a job just like anyone else. As I said before, I don't condone the lifestyle, but I'm not apposed to them working and teaching students just like anyone else. Sure if they come to work talking about suckin dikks, that's a problem. But if they stick to the curriculum their sex or sexuality shouldn't matter.

Do you have children?