Colin Cowherd sh*ts all over pro-wrestling :mjcry:

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

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Yes their operation costs were high, they've scaled back on those and the WWE Network is still expanding.

UFC is going to be stuck paying fighters a lot more than they have been. That's all changing. It's started already with McGregor but the lower card fighters still make shyt. That's going to change. And the issue of CTE is going to be a problem for them moving forward.

Regardless, this is a down time for WWE and they are still raking. I've yet to see anyone counter that argument.

I never said WWE was more valuable than UFC in 2016. That's not the argument.

 

[The Infamous]

McGregor aint gonna last because he's just not that good. He has personality but he already lost to Diaz who was a journeymen fighter. I think Aldo takes out this dude in their rematch and then he'll be runnin shyt again with his boring ass lol. Before McGregor came along people were sayin the same shyt about UFC with the creating stars shyt.

Cowherd is right and wrong. WWE's ratings have dropped like hell but this is still a business that's going to sell out the Air Canada whatever arena in back to back nights this weekend. One show is headlined by Nakamura vs. Samoa Joe. Who the hell knows who these guys are? Nobody but us. It still sold out in record time as they all do, all NXT events end up selling out.

The other show is headlined by old ass Goldberg and Brock Lesnar. No John Cena, No Taker, no Sting, no HHH, no Rock. It's still a sellout.

Royal Rumble will have a huge crowd in the Alamodome.

WrestleMania despite whoever headlines will have 80,000+ fans. How many UFC events can get over 80,000? Has there been one? McGregor and Aldo ain't doin 80k+ unless it's in Ireland.

Nobody knows who Woodley is. Nobody knows who the women's champ is. Ronda will get killed again and go away. Probably go to wrestling ironically.

I'll take comments. Tell me anything I said that was inaccurate in my post.

- McGregor is the FW and LW champion. He beat the FW GOAT and one of the best fighters the sports has seen (Aldo). He recently dominated Eddie Alvarez, who is an elite fighter and a (now former) champion in the UFC's most talent rich divisions (LW). To say he's not that good is laughable. He's a top 3 P4P fighter in MMA at the moment (along with DJ and Jones).

- I don't think you know what a journeyman is. He was a top 7-8 LW when he beat McGregor, so I don't see how anyone can call him a journeymen. I could see where you're coming from if you called him a gatekeeper, but he's def not a journeyman. Yes, he has loses, but you have to look at the context, who has beaten him. If you followed the sport closely, you would understand my point. Nate fought for the title a few years back and has only lost to contenders (Thomson), champions (Bendo and McGregor) and former champions (RDA). Plus, he's beaten Cowboy, MJ and McGregor. All very good fighters.

- Before McGregor and Ronda, MMA had GSP and Anderson. Before that, they had Liddell and Ortiz.

- UFC 205 had a gate of $17.7 million, the latest Wrestlemania had a gate of $17 million.

Like I said, your points regarding MMA are largely inaccurate.

Put together a decent card with McGregor headlining and he can easily sell out a stadium in the US.

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

I see die hard wrestling fans and people who hate Cowherd in here. I don't like him neither but we should ignore that fact.

He said no different than what we say in TSC 24/7. I don't know why we are getting offended because of a non wrestling fan telling the truth.

 

[The Infamous]

Yes their operation costs were high, they've scaled back on those and the WWE Network is still expanding.

UFC is going to be stuck paying fighters a lot more than they have been. That's all changing. It's started already with McGregor but the lower card fighters still make shyt. That's going to change. And the issue of CTE is going to be a problem for them moving forward.

Regardless, this is a down time for WWE and they are still raking. I've yet to see anyone counter that argument.

I never said WWE was more valuable than UFC in 2016. That's not the argument.

You compared the WWE's revenue to the UFC's. The UFC's profit (more important than revenue) shatters the WWE's.

The UFC is not going to be paying fighters a lot more anytime soon.

 

[The Infamous]

Just fyi triple g aint that popular my man

That's my point.

Probably my last post regarding the subject, I got exams coming up. I'm out.

 

[Cladyclad]

If he was on espn he would not say this. This is FS1 propping up UFC because of their deal and downing WWE because of ESPN

That fukk niqqa ain't slick

 

[jadillac]

Put together a decent card with McGregor headlining and he can easily sell out a stadium in the US.

Maybe. But I don't see it happening too much.

Most UFC fights are boring. You never know what you're gonna get just due to the nature of the sport. UFC 200 was supposed to be the GOAT show, and it ended up being a complete dud. The last two shows McGregor has headlined have ended great for UFC. But you never know if you're gonna get that or not.

Because of that and the increase of ticket prices, I dont see many stadium shows coming soon.

 

[The Infamous]

Maybe. But I don't see it happening too much.

He just set the gate record for MSG at $17.4 million. He's headlined 5 PPVs, his buys are 825k, 1.2 million, 1.6 million and 1.65 million. UFC 205 is trending to surpass 1.65 million buys. He's all over the media. Conor can definitely sell out a stadium.

Most UFC fights are boring.

What's your point? This is your opinion. I find MMA exciting, as do a lot of other people.

You never know what you're gonna get just due to the nature of the sport. UFC 200 was supposed to be the GOAT show, and it ended up being a complete dud. The last two shows McGregor has headlined have ended great for UFC. But you never know if you're gonna get that or not.

Some MMA matches are boring. So are some baseball/football/etc. games.

 

[jadillac]

He just set the gate record for MSG at $17.4 million. He's headlined 5 PPVs, his buys are 825k, 1.2 million, 1.6 million and 1.65 million. UFC 205 is trending to surpass 1.65 million buys. He's all over the media. Conor can definitely sell out a stadium.



What's your point? This is your opinion. I find MMA exciting, as do a lot of other people.



Some MMA matches are boring. So are some baseball/football/etc. games.

yeah, some basketball/baseball/football games are boring....but they're also FREE to watch.

If you drop $65 on a UFC ppv and it's a dud, you lost.

I never said MMA in general wasn't exciting at times, I said most of the fights I see are boring.

 

[The Infamous]

yeah, some basketball/baseball/football games are boring....but they're also FREE to watch.

If you drop $65 on a UFC ppv and it's a dud, you lost.

I never said MMA in general wasn't exciting at times, I said most of the fights I see are boring.

I've always maintained that paying $65 for any type of PPV is a joke. I've wanted the UFC to get rid of the PPV model since I started watching the sport. No matter what it is, I can't justify paying $65 for 3 hours of entertainment.

Yeah and most of the football games I've watched are really boring.

 

[8WON6]

How insecure is the entirety of MMA that they constantly have to bring up wrestling tho? You're a real sport, compare yourself to NBA, NFL, MLB, etc...

Could yall imagine like real Navy Seals, coming at Marky Mark and Bradley Cooper calling them weak, for acting in a movie about Navy Seals? That's how silly this shyt is.

 

[Metal Face]

I fukking hate this piece of shyt but he's right.

 

[Swagnicious]

Dude has a point.

Wrestlemania 2000 only had one wrestler in a match, who had been in the company earlier than a decade before the event.......Big Bossman. And he was an active roster wrestler like everyone else on the card, not a part-timer. Basically the entire card was made up of newer Attitude Era stars including Bossman, and there was no need to dig up/rely on any older stars

Now look at WM32. Dudley Boyz, Jericho, Lesnar, Taker and Triple H EACH had a match where they were a main participant. Plus Kane and Big Show were needed to be featured once again, to help put over the Andre Memorial battle royal. Six out of twelve matches........half the fukking card had to rely on old stars from 10+ years ago to complete the show and please the audience . And that doesn't even include the Ric Flair appearance and Rock appearances. PLUS they had to dig up Shane of all people for Taker's match, because all of their other available stars/legends were either already in a feud or were injured at the time (e.g. Cena and Orton)

It's incredibly sad that Vince can't rely solely on his active roster to put over a Wrestlemania anymore

 

[stro]

I'm not sure why his talk about WWE stars had anything to do with anything. The WWE audience is the WWE audience. The UFC audience is the UFC audience. There is a crossover, of course, but people who are going to buy are going to buy regardless of the stars. WWE and UFC aren't competitors in the same way that MMA and boxing are. They never have been. WWE started losing its audience while they still had Austin/Rock at their peaks and the greatest roster ever assembled of the biggest stars ever mixed with the hottest young talent in the world. And this was years before MMA blew up.

WWE not being able to create new stars has nothing to do with MMA's rise. WWE has purposely made the brand itself the selling point over a specific star, so when one guy gets hurt, people know they're still getting a WWE show, and that's what is most important. Compared to a show in UFC where if the one or two big stars they have on the card have to pull out, the show bombs, because people buy UFC shows for specific stars instead of the UFC brand. UFC hasn't done a good job of making stars, imo. They have 500 people on their roster. How many people have any name value to people who aren't hanging out on The Underground? Like....4.

 

[Osmosis]

fukk Colin, fukk Mcgregor and fukk the WWE