BelowTheMasonDixon
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Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
It's mostly the voice....cause it damn sure ain't the bars
If you came away from Gang Starr's music thinking Guru was laughably mediocre, there's nothing I can do to help you.
BelowTheMasonDixon
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If you came away from Gang Starr's music thinking Guru was laughably mediocre, there's nothing I can do to help you.
He's really just a decent rapper tho. And on top of that he's monotone. like in a bad way. like Nas is monotone but he figured out early how to still stand out. Guru...man fukk it like Guru RIP I'm a just say less.
Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
You're on thin ice with this thread, man. Wafer thin ice.
One of Guru's most distinctive features is his voice. Premier said it himself, that's part of what made him so special is that he could rap over anything and stand out because of his voice. As an MC, he's decent at worst. At best, he's legitimately one of the best rappers to touch a mic. The fact that he was able to adjust to the times, his quotables, his flow, the versatility in his writing........he gets underrated because his partner is universally regarded as one of the GOAT producers, but he was on top of his game from the beginning. We're not talking about Lil Dap or Melachi here.
But yes, at this point, you should say less.
BelowTheMasonDixon
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You're on thin ice with this thread, man. Wafer thin ice.
One of Guru's most distinctive features is his voice. Premier said it himself, that's part of what made him so special is that he could rap over anything and stand out because of his voice. As an MC, he's decent at worst. At best, he's legitimately one of the best rappers to touch a mic. The fact that he was able to adjust to the times, his quotables, his flow, the versatility in his writing........he gets underrated because his partner is universally regarded as one of the GOAT producers, but he was on top of his game from the beginning. We're not talking about Lil Dap or Melachi here.
But yes, at this point, you should say less.
GURU? out of all the rappers to ever come out of NYC GURU? Cmon now. like I said. I like dude. But no way in hell you can tell me that DJ Priemier and uhhh any halfway decent MC couldnt have been just as strong a team.
Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
No. You can't just pair anybody with anybody and have it work. Gang Starr worked because you had two of the best in their respective fields complimenting each other and making each other better. Gang Starr was Guru's child. It was his group and Premier was brought in years after the fact. He gave him his name, told him that he needed to step up his production instead of just doing scratches. Guru thought up the concepts for all the songs on the album, wrote the titles down on a piece of paper, and gave them to Premier. He then made beats based off of Guru's ideas. Guru had a hand in naming the albums, worked as an A&R in scouting talent, etc. Premier could make dope records with anybody, but the magic, chemistry, and legacy he had with Guru? You can't replicate that with just anybody.
It's disrespectful to divorce Premier from Guru and act like Premier didn't need him to be great. He did. Guru also proved that he could make dope music without Premier's involvement (Jazzmatazz). @TheDarceKnight has talked about it in the past, but this is just like saying that RZA didn't need the Wu-Tang Clan to be great. Havoc and Prodigy didn't need each other, Dre didn't need Snoop. He was successful without him anyway, right? Q-Tip didn't need to be with Phife. Why would he? He was already the defacto leader of ATCQ.
It's a group. Gang Starr isn't Gang Starr if it's not Guru and Premier. They came as a set. Both of their legacies grew as a result of their partnership. They were consistent for roughly 15 years. Premier worked with Jeru exclusively, but their relationship fizzled out. People only talk about the Group Home album because of the production. Dap and Melachi definitely would not have a classic on their hands without Premier.
But Guru? Him and Premier became what they became for a reason.
BelowTheMasonDixon
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Well shyt fam, now you got me feeling stupid.
Most recently if you listen to some of his stuff with the new 1017....
cjt11203
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He's a good rapper but his music can be boring. Listening to the album he dropped after Nipsey passing was such a fukking chore.
cjt11203
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This isn't a sin, it's just not true.
cjt11203
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Curren$y has the best discography of the 2000s.
Benny the Butcher is the weakest link in Griselda.
Nikki is a better rapper than Drake and Wayne.
Honestly my ranking changes after every project they drop. Conway is holding it down right now tho.
cjt11203
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Like Ross and Drake, he has a good ear for beats, which is a talent within itself.
The Truth is one of the hardest diss songs ever.
Mac Dre the GOAT. I'm from the South, btw. But no one can touch the smoothness of his flow or his delivery, to me.