"Conformity isn't one of your strong suits": I was just denied a promotion...

[Brown_Pride]

Do you think it's just your manager? SOunds like you don't have a career path in that company. Been there before. I moved laterally and was able to get under a good manager that helped me move up.

Also, keep in mind that sometimes they already know who they are going to promote/hire before they go in but have to give the illusion of being fair. Don't get salty just yet though you may have impressed someone else in that meeting. Were you competing against someone else for a position or was it just a pay increase/ title?

You wont always get the job, you'll often run into shyt managers. If it's too bad and you think you're in a dead end position gtfo sooner than later.

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

I can tell you're black by reading this.

 

[Brown_Pride]

This looks like I'm going to need an entire mentality shift in the near future. I always used to say to a few people, 'I don't do the cronyism thing. When I speak to you, it's because I have something to say to you. You should take comfort in the fact that we're having a conversation because I think you're cool, not because I have some ulterior motive or because I think I can get something out of you.' Maybe I'm just doing it wrong.

I've also had someone else say, 'Being nice is great and all, but if you don't have an agenda, you'll be eaten alive...'

48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene

read it. Use it. Learn to recognize it in others.

And yes. NETWORK. NETWORK.NETWORK

 

[WeSeeIt]

48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene

read it. Use it. Learn to recognize it in others.

And yes. NETWORK. NETWORK.NETWORK

Thanks. I'll definitely check it out.

 

[WeSeeIt]

I can tell you're black by reading this.

Uhm, thanks. I think. haha.

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

Uhm, thanks. I think. haha.

naw man, we are the main ones who go through that bullshyt. im in a similar boat except my potential pay increase is 30 rackays.

 

[WeSeeIt]

naw man, we are the main ones who go through that bullshyt. im in a similar boat except my potential pay increase is 30 rackays.

I hear that. I hope you get the promotion/pay raise.

 

[BlackAchilles]

That's some bullshyt, start looking for another employer I say.

 

[88m3]

time to start looking for a new job.

that sucks man, sorry.

 

[newworldafro]

ummm.... did I miss it ....what industry are you in OP??

 

[Kid McNamara]

naw man, we are the main ones who go through that bullshyt. im in a similar boat except my potential pay increase is 30 rackays.

Not true.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This was one of the reasons I was just given when I was denied a promotion and a pay bump that was potentially as large as 20k.

Along with the conformity reason. I was also told I wasn't professional enough, when several of them (it was a 5 person interview) showed up in blue jeans.

I had an interview and a presentation. It lasted over 100 minutes. The presentation came last, and they even recognized that my voice was strained after speaking about myself nonstop for over an hour. They said, 'do you need to grab some water'. Part of me feels as if they knew this would happen, and elected not to let me do the presentation first.

During the feedback, they pointed out that they worried that I wouldn't just carry out orders when given if I disagreed with them. And that they expected me to fight back or debate with them why certain things were being done.

I also had one interviewer who I felt didn't want me to have the job regardless of how I performed, she snapped at me, 'Do you see this department as a stepping stone to get what you really want?' What kind of interview question is that?!?!?!

A couple of the other people in the room looked at her like .

My current manager has a notorious reputation for blocking the progress of those under her, so I'm worried I may have been a victim of it.

Now I'm thinking I need to find a new company to work for, but the benefits and vacation packages are amazing.

what do you do?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This looks like I'm going to need an entire mentality shift in the near future. I always used to say to a few people, 'I don't do the cronyism thing. When I speak to you, it's because I have something to say to you. You should take comfort in the fact that we're having a conversation because I think you're cool, not because I have some ulterior motive or because I think I can get something out of you.' Maybe I'm just doing it wrong.

I've also had someone else say, 'Being nice is great and all, but if you don't have an agenda, you'll be eaten alive...'

I don't like the sentiment that everyone is giving you:

Namely that its THEIR fault.

Sometimes the fault REALLY could be on you.

Do you mind being more specific? How long have you been in your current role and whats the normal trajectory beyond it?

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

To protect the guy, because he has answered this before, he works in the greater financial services industry

 

[BlackAchilles]

To protect the guy, because he has answered this before, he works in the greater financial services industry

No wonder, that field is a cesspool of immorality run by sociopaths.