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this guy attention seeking antics made him the trump of mma/ufc ....even neutrals want him to lose:russ:
 

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You can't count the guys like that on one hand

Damian Maia, who is old and far passed his prime, was a real BJJ guy, there's nobody in MMA right now with his credentials in that

Yoel Romero, Daniel Cormier, and Henry Cejudo are the only olympic medalist in wrestling in UFC history

The best Muy Thai fighters do not compete in MMA

Israel Adesanya could never become a kickboxing champion and he got over a hundred kickboxing matches lmao

Wonderboy was undefeated in American Kickboxing, which is basically just karate with boxing punches

but so was Chris Algeri who won pretty much all those types of fights by KO and had no power in boxing

The best Jiu Jitsu guys do not compete in MMA, best wrestlers don't compete in MMA, the best muy thai fighters don't compete in MMA, the best kickboxers don't compete in MMA, and not even journeymen level boxers compete in MMA

so what are you talking about
Charles Olivera is a top bjj guy, Ryan Hall a top bjj guy, mekenzie Dern bjj champ, Gary Tonon competes in ONE Championship took third in ADCC 77kg 2019. Like you saying alot of the guys were jacks of all trades master of none. Izzy was legit thai guy/kick boxing. Alot of these guys have as many years in they one discipline as alot of boxers have just in boxing. When they transition to mma they picks up the other aspects that's also involves mma. Plus the guys you named were also in mma at the highest level so that debunks your argument about they just jacks of all trades masters of of none , they still were high level guys in mma. If you prefer boxing over mma nothing wrong with that but don't spew bullshyt just to try to elevate the other. When said argument can be made for both sports.
 
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Charles Olivera is a top bjj guy, Ryan Hall a top bjj guy, mekenzie Dern bjj champ, Gary Tonon competes in ONE Championship took third in ADCC 77kg 2019. Like you saying alot of the guys were jacks of all trades master of none. Izzy was legit thai guy/kick boxing. Alot of these guys have as many years in they one discipline as alot of boxers have just in boxing. When they transition to mma they picks up the other aspects that's also involves mma. Plus the guys you named were also in mma at the highest level so that debunks your argument about they just jacks of all trades masters of of none , they still were high level guys in mma. If you prefer boxing over mma nothing wrong with that but don't spew bullshyt just to try to elevate the other. When said argument can be made for both sports.

Ryan Hall has 16 wins and 8 losses in BJJ competition and he's 35 years old

Mekenize Dern lol, are you serious

Charles Olveria has been an MMA fighting since 2007 it's 2021 lmao, he's not BJJ guy he's an MMA guy

None of them are ranked high in BJJ

Top BJJ guys are the people who train these fighters and would destroy them in just a grappling match and probably beat them in real fight too on the street

Izzy is a legit kickboxer, he's not not close to being the best, Overeem competed in kickboxing for example kickboxing is a circus type of sport

Kickboxing in general is inferior to Muy Thai, they are two different sports


Galvao is ranked NUMBER 1 in his weight category

and just have Izzy a purple belt



its levels to this shyt

nobody in the UFC can play with Izzy on the ground like this and he just a purple belt

Jon Jones was submitting black belts when he first started, but he would get submitted by this guy its level to this shyt man

 

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Ryan Hall has 16 wins and 8 losses in BJJ competition and he's 35 years old

Mekenize Dern lol, are you serious

Charles Olveria has been an MMA fighting since 2007 it's 2021 lmao, he's not BJJ guy he's an MMA guy

None of them are ranked high in BJJ

Top BJJ guys are the people who train these fighters and would destroy them in just a grappling match and probably beat them in real fight too on the street

Galvao is ranked NUMBER 1 in his weight category

and just have Izzy a purple belt



its levels to this shyt

Galvao is ranked #1 in his weight by who??? Because in Ibjjf he's not and in ADCC he's not it's Gordon Ryan. What are you getting your info from because I'm literally on the bjj scene because my son. Galvao is a legend yes but the top guy at his weight?? No.Thats according to FloGrappling the closest we have in bjj to official rank.Don't know where you got Ryan Hall "record" in bjj comp from because that's false I train with Than Le( ONE Champion look him up) he train directly with him at 50/50 in Virginia and Ryan has been at my gym plenty and Ryan has competed in hundreds of bjj competitions and that's not his record. Same as Olivera being a "mma guy". Izzy got his purple at ATOS means nothing in this debate I don't even know why you posted that clip ATOS isnt the only bjj high level gym. There is Renzo Gracie, Checkmat, Alliance, Gracie Barra, and so on and on. Like I said in mma there are MANY skilled guys that come from one discipline that transition to mma. Just cause you favor one sport over the other don't mean you can create bullshyt. And yes I posted mckenzie because she is a multiple time ibjjf champion at black belt so she is legit legit.
 

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Charles Olivera is a top bjj guy, Ryan Hall a top bjj guy, mekenzie Dern bjj champ, Gary Tonon competes in ONE Championship took third in ADCC 77kg 2019. Like you saying alot of the guys were jacks of all trades master of none. Izzy was legit thai guy/kick boxing. Alot of these guys have as many years in they one discipline as alot of boxers have just in boxing. When they transition to mma they picks up the other aspects that's also involves mma. Plus the guys you named were also in mma at the highest level so that debunks your argument about they just jacks of all trades masters of of none , they still were high level guys in mma. If you prefer boxing over mma nothing wrong with that but don't spew bullshyt just to try to elevate the other. When said argument can be made for both sports.
You left out Gilbert Burns whose fighting for the title next month. ADCC bronze medalist

Marcus Buchecha is one of the best in jiu-jitsu and he’ll be making his mma debut this year

Rodolfo Viera is currently undefeated in MMA and is a ADCC gold medalist

Rafael Lovato Jr was an accomplished jiu jitsu fighter before going undefeated in mma. He beat Gegard Mousasi for the bellator title but had to retire because he had spots in his brain
 

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You left out Gilbert Burns whose fighting for the title next month. ADCC bronze medalist

Marcus Buchecha is one of the best in jiu-jitsu and he’ll be making his mma debut this year

Rodolfo Viera is currently undefeated in MMA and is a ADCC gold medalist

Rafael Lovato Jr was an accomplished jiu jitsu fighter before going undefeated in mma. He beat Gegard Mousasi for the bellator title but had to retire because he had spots in his brain
You absolutely right I just wasn't trynna name everyone off top just giving some examples but it's also nice to here someone else know what I'm speaking on.
 

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mma is so goddamn wack. no technique, just two fakkit whiteboys swinging haymakers, hoping to connect on something.
:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

I love it when casuals walk into something they don't understand and just admit why they don't understand it.

Do you know why Conor was fighting with that stance and having trouble moving? Do you know what he was protecting? Do you know what Poirier's strategy was over the first two rounds to get him to that vulnerable point?



Why is it that dudes in mma don't last long? There's been a gang of boxers that's 50-0, 100-0, etc
There's not, but the reality is in UFC fighters don't have as much control. You can't just set up 20 joke matches before you fight a real fight, pad your resume with 5 oafs in-between every legitimate opponent, and duck the top guy in the division until he's washed. If you're at the top you're expected to fight the top, refuse and you won't be getting more paydays.

Also, styles make fights in boxing but it's even more true in MMA. Different boxers have different techniques but the objective is basically the same. Whereas in MMA the options are so varied that you never have one guy who is just GOAT at everything. Someone great with his hands will get caught by a leg, an incredible stand-up fighter will get taken to the ground, the best grappler in the world will get knocked out on his feet. No one can be GOAT at everything so there's always a chance to take the L when the opponent is just wrong for your weakness.

Not to mention that when boxers know such an opponent exists, they just duck him if they have the power. :yeshrug:




Because Dana White is actually a very good short term booker in that he mixes cans in with his once in a blue moon legit fights.

But since these guys are fighting cans in main events they never actually get better over time and get embarrased on a global scale after being presented as godscans
You can't honestly believe that represents MMA and not boxing. :laff:
 
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Galvao is ranked #1 in his weight by who??? Because in Ibjjf he's not and in ADCC he's not it's Gordon Ryan. What are you getting your info from because I'm literally on the bjj scene because my son. Galvao is a legend yes but the top guy at his weight?? No.Thats according to FloGrappling the closest we have in bjj to official rank.Don't know where you got Ryan Hall "record" in bjj comp from because that's false I train with Than Le( ONE Champion look him up) he train directly with him at 50/50 in Virginia and Ryan has been at my gym plenty and Ryan has competed in hundreds of bjj competitions and that's not his record. Same as Olivera being a "mma guy". Izzy got his purple at ATOS means nothing in this debate I don't even know why you posted that clip ATOS isnt the only bjj high level gym. There is Renzo Gracie, Checkmat, Alliance, Gracie Barra, and so on and on. Like I said in mma there are MANY skilled guys that come from one discipline that transition to mma. Just cause you favor one sport over the other don't mean you can create bullshyt. And yes I posted mckenzie because she is a multiple time ibjjf champion at black belt so she is legit legit.

Being SKILLED DOESN'T MEAN THE BEST

Ryan HAll is nowhere near Damien Maia in BJJ


that's all Damien Maia needed to reach the top of MMA, only reason he was never champion was because Anderson Silva was a black belt who could also strike better than anyone in MMA and knew how to avoid the ground game, and it was called the most boring fight ever

Best BJJ Fighters Today | BJJ Heroes

Once again the list is non bias because it based on points on the number of competitions and models each person one

THERE IS LEVELS TO THIS shyt

Just because those guys are good don't them the best ever

Amir Khan is technically one of the best boxers in the world EVEN TODAY, but put him amongst the best, HE AIN'T shyt LMAO

Why is that hard for you to understand
 

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Being SKILLED DOESN'T MEAN THE BEST

Ryan HAll is nowhere near Damien Maia in BJJ


that's all Damien Maia needed to reach the top of MMA, only reason he was never champion was because Anderson Silva was a black belt who could also strike better than anyone in MMA and knew how to avoid the ground game, and it was called the most boring fight ever

Best BJJ Fighters Today | BJJ Heroes

Once again the list is non bias because it based on points on the number of competitions and models each person one

THERE IS LEVELS TO THIS shyt

Just because those guys are good don't them the best ever

Amir Khan is technically one of the best boxers in the world EVEN TODAY, but put him amongst the best, HE AIN'T shyt LMAO

Why is that hard for you to understand
:laff:ok . This ain't your thing I realize that now. Because if you think Maia is more skilled in bjj then Ryan Hall you obviously have no clue. You said "now" the game of bjj has changed since the time he was on top. His generation didn't even use leg locks heavy during that time lol. You posting a all time list is like me posting a all time boxing list lol. Thats like saying mike tyson is the top guy now based off accomplishments. We talking now not all time.
 
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:laff:ok . This ain't your thing I realize that now. Because if you think Maia is more skilled in bjj then Ryan Hall you obviously have no clue. I'm good you have a good one.

Maia is regarded as one of the best Grapplers in MMA history, Ryan Hall is not

you have clue what you are talking about

and also just to play devil's advocate back to the original point

You named 3 PEOPLE

3 PEOPLE OUT OF THE ENTIRE WORLD OF MMA

My point stands and those 3 people aren't the best in their discipline, they aren't the Floyd Mayweather of BJJ or regarded as such

Point still stands

Canelo going to MMA would be an example of what I'm talking about when I say the best the top from another discipline competing in MMA
 
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:laff:ok . This ain't your thing I realize that now. Because if you think Maia is more skilled in bjj then Ryan Hall you obviously have no clue. You said "now" the game of bjj has changed since the time he was on top. His generation didn't even use leg locks heavy during that time lol. You posting a all time list is like me posting a all time boxing list lol. Thats like saying mike tyson is the top guy now based off accomplishments. We talking now not all time.

Damien Maia BJJ credentials


  • ADCC World Submission Wrestling Championships
  • Pan American Championships
  • CBJJ World Championships
    • 2001 Brown Belt Medio-Pesado: 2nd Place
    • 2000 Purple Belt Medio-Pesado: 1st Place
    • 1999 Blue Belt Medio: 2nd Place
  • CBJJ Brazilian Championships
    • 2006 Black Belt Absolute: 2nd Place & Black Belt Meio-Pesado: 3rd Place
    • 2002 Brown Belt Medio-Pesado: 3rd Place
    • 2001 Brown Belt Medio-Pesado: 1st Place & Brown Belt Medio-Pesado: 3rd Place
  • CBJJ Brazilian Team Championships
    • 2003 Brown/Black Pesada: Master, 1st Place
    • 2002 Brown/Black Pesada: Alliance, 2nd Place
    • 2001 Brown/Black Pesada: Alliance, 1st Place
    • 2000 Purple Belt Pesada: Alliance, 1st Place
  • CBJJO Copa Del Mundo (World Cup)
    • 2005 −85 kg Black Belt: 1st Place
    • 2003 Black Belt Meio-Pesado: 3rd Place & Black Belt Absolute: 1st Place
    • 2002 Black Belt Meio-Pesado: 1st Place & Black Belt Absolute: 2nd Place
Ryan Hall BJJ credentials

Main Achievements:

  • 1st Place ADCC US West Coast Trials (2009)
  • 1st Place IBJJF Chicago Open (2009*)
  • 3rd Place ADCC World Championship (2009)
Main Achievements (Colored Belts):

  • 1st Place IBJJF World Championship (2008 purple)
  • 1st Place IBJJF World Championship (2007 purple)
  • 1st Place IBJJF European Open (2008 purple)
  • 3rd Place CBJJ Brazilian Nationals (2008 purple)
  • 3rd Place IBJJF World Championship (2009 brown)

you have no clue what you are talking about

MORON
 

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Maia is regarded as one of the best Grapplers in MMA history, Ryan Hall is not

you have clue what you are talking about

and also just to play devil's advocate back to the original point

You named 3 PEOPLE

3 PEOPLE OUT OF THE ENTIRE WORLD OF MMA

My point stands and those 3 people aren't the best in their discipline, they aren't the Floyd Mayweather of BJJ or regarded as such

Point still stands

Canelo going to MMA would be an example of what I'm talking about when I say the best the top from another discipline competing in MMA
Maia is a all-time great but his style of bjj gets cooked by today's generation. He comes from old school style which was great for it's time but now that style wouldn't get him far. Trust me. If you don't train you wouldn't understand stand it. Those few guys I named is just a few I'm not gonna sit here and name every single person lol. Plus why would a guy at the top of his sport and eating good would want to crossover? Like for what? Some do it but for the most part it make no sense because you not gonna just walk into mma, i don't care what discipline you come from and just beat the tops guys. Not gonna happen, that's a real casuals perspective.
 
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Maia is a all-time great but his style of bjj gets cooked by today's generation. He comes from old school style which was great for it's time but now that style wouldn't get him far. Trust me. If you don't train you wouldn't understand stand it. Those few guys I named is just a few I'm not gonna sit here and name every single person lol. Plus why would a guy at the top of his sport and eating good would want to crossover? Like for what? Some do it but for the most part it make no sense because you not gonna just walk into mma, i don't care what discipline you come from and just beat the tops guys. Not gonna happen, that's a real casuals perspective.

Once Maia passed his prime as a fighter you fukking moron he's old, I never said he was fighting today he is retired

CAN YOU READ, CAN YOU COMPREHEND ENGLISH

I said Maia was the only guy who was at the very top of BJJ who competed in modern MMA, and he succeeded, he couldn't get be champ because of Anderson that's it, Maia was the last MMA fighter who was PURE GRAPPLER and thats all he did
 
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