Convicted of murder at 12, Released at 19… is this a story of redemption?

[Buckeye Fever]

He's gonna "pawg", thinkin shyt is sweet, and white ppl are gonna get revenge.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

nah bruh 14-17 year olds deserve any punishment they get for brutality. They know right from wrong bruh

It's like people grow up and forget the demons. Omg it's just a kid until they set up and murk your 9 year old brother, son, nephew, etc. Who was playing
That's called a sociopath, a dark heart.

 

[mag357]

What I laid out DIRECTLY shows he knows the consequences that's why he picked on an unsuspecting 9 year old boy. Again I don't understand why what I laid out didn't make you draw the right conclusions. That was the point of me laying it out, that someone who knows the consequences why else CHOOSE someone he felt was weak?

I hope y'all not getting played like this in real life WE WERE ALL KIDS we know how full of shyt kids are
People are horrible judges of character that's why people keep getting played
That's why they act the way they do they know the consequences but they know they have a safety net
The worser the person, the more demonic they will be knowing this safety net
Then people grow up and forget all the demons they saw growing up, unless of course they don't care and were a demon themselves

Bro, I'm not disagreeing.
When I was coming up...I was pretty much a grown Katt at 15-16.. everybody around me was in the streets and doing grown up shyt.

I dont think you're understanding what I mean by "fully understanding the consequences of their actions" tho...
This wouldn't necessarily be my argument...
But this is the obvious argument for age of consent laws and any laws dealing with age...
Smoking, drinking, trying people as adults, etc...

Even if you want the beer... go out and actively get someone to buy you the beer... You know what time you want to drink the beer...
There's txt messages of you telling people how you can't wait to drink the beer... And you consume the beer and get caught as a juvenile

The argument for people who make the laws is that you aren't responsible enough and can't fully understand what beer can do to you.
(Or smoking... Or sex)

Fully understanding means to have the right cognitive development and having enough life experience to understand the decisions when it comes to the actions.
So premeditation is just pre-actions and calculation (which you laid out)...
has nothing to do with fully understanding of the actions (to the people who make up the rules and laws)

I'm on the fence with it... Because im not an expert in child psychology...neither are you..
So all we can do is speak for ourselves and our own experiences...

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

This is such a sad rationalization if what you think if humans...

Many murders aren't planned, they are spur of the moment emotional overreactions. Even if you planned to kill someone, you should still get age-appropriate punishment. Not 40 years as if you were a 27 year old murderer...

What person has a spur of the moment emotional overreaction to a 9 year old kid who has their back turned to them by...killing them and also doing this by proactively making the kid think he is playing with another kid and stabbing him in the back. Actually think about this in real life and you guys will realize how ridiculous you sound instead of converting the dead 9 year old boy into a concept to play devil's advocate. But the kids
y'all arguments and this thread in general is
bizarre

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

Bro, I'm not disagreeing.
When I was coming up...I was pretty much a grown Katt at 15-16.. everybody around me was in the streets and doing grown up shyt.

I dont think you're understanding what I mean by "fully understanding the consequences of their actions" tho...
This wouldn't necessarily be my argument...
But this is the obvious argument for age of consent laws and any laws dealing with age...
Smoking, drinking, trying people as adults, etc...

Even if you want the beer... go out and actively get someone to buy you the beer... You know what time you want to drink the beer...
There's txt messages of you telling people how you can't wait to drink the beer... And you consume the beer and get caught as a juvenile

The argument for people who make the laws is that you aren't responsible enough and can't fully understand what beer can do to you.
(Or smoking... Or sex)

Fully understanding means to have the right cognitive development and having enough life experience to understand the decisions when it comes to the actions.
So premeditation is just pre-actions and calculation (which you laid out)...
has nothing to do with fully understanding of the actions (to the people who make up the rules and laws)

I'm on the fence with it... Because im not an expert in child psychology...neither are you..
So all we can do is speak for ourselves and our own experiences...

They understand their actions that's why they wild out in childhood knowing that's the last time they will have an excuse. Cut the bullshyt

 

[mag357]

They understand their actions that's why they wild out in childhood knowing that's the last time they will have an excuse. Cut the bullshyt

Ok cool...
So I'll make it simple bro...
Since we kinda going back and forth lol

Do you believe a grown person should be allowed to have sex with an underage person?
Since you're saying these young people understand their actions.

But the law says they don't understand their actions at that age, so they can't legally consent

(I know I'm kinda putting you on the spot their brother lol... But the question is just to hammer home the point)

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

Ok cool...
So I'll make it simple bro...
Since we kinda going back and forth lol

Do you believe a grown person should be allowed to have sex with an underage person?
Since you're saying these young people understand their actions.

But the law says they don't understand their actions at that age, so they can't legally consent

(I know I'm kinda putting you on the spot their brother lol... But the question is just to hammer home the point)

Like I said, the posts in this thread is bizarre. The arguments are bizarre. I don't know what you're doing with going from sex with an underage person WTF does have to do with this thread of murder? Then conflating that with my arguments. You need to answer that question yourself since you're the once that even has that question in your mind and why are you so interested in the sex aspect. Who gives a fukk? Put yourself on the spot.

 

[mag357]

Like I said, the posts in this thread is bizarre. The arguments are bizarre. I don't know what you're doing with going to sex with an underage person WTF does have to do with this thread of murder? You need to answer that question yourself since you're the once that even has that question in your mind. Put yourself on the spot.

Omg ...
Then just replace it with should a 13 yr old be allowed to drink alcohol...
Be allowed to smoke cigarettes...

Jeeezus smh

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

Omg ...
Then just replace but with should a 13 yr old be allowed to drink alcohol...
Be allowed to smoke cigarettes...

Jeeezus smh

You're using a slippery slope argument, going from extreme to extreme
We also don't need address laws since kids are already doing those things again did everyone forget what they saw growing up?
Also you're not a kid anymore, so what the fukk does that even have to do with you in the first place? And more importantly, me?
Just bizarre arguments from everyone in this thread

 

[Mindfield333]

If someone stabbed your 9 your old son to death, you would be fine if they're out of prison just 7 years later?

Unless it was self defense there no excuse for what he did.

Honestly I can’t say that I’d be receptive to it. But dude was also 12 at the time and was being fb abused. I hope he has been redeemed though.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

Honestly I can’t say that I’d be receptive to it. But dude was also 12 at the time and was being fb abused. I hope he has been redeemed though.

So he decided to set up a 9 year old kid who had nothing to do with his abuse and take his life by stabbing him from behind because? The demonic kids know they have a safety net and do as they will

 

[mag357]

You're using a slippery slope argument, going from extreme to extreme
We also don't need address laws since kids are already doing those things again did everyone forget what they saw growing up?
Also you're not a kid anymore, so what the fukk does that even have to do with you in the first place?
Just bizarre arguments from everyone in this thread

How is it a slippery slope argument...

Kids are getting tried as adults for murder at 13...
Saying they have full understanding of the consequences of their actions...

But they cant drink, smoke or have sex with the person of their choosing...
Because they don't have full understanding of their actions


Make that shyt make sense bruh...

And it feels like only black kids are getting that kind of "he knew what he was doing" treatment...

But it's all good tho bro...
Thanx for Convo

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

How is it a slippery slope argument...

Kids are getting tried as adults for murder at 13...
Saying they have full understanding of the consequences of their actions...

But they cant drink, smoke or have sex with the person if their choosing...
Because they don't have full understanding of their actions


Make that shyt make sense bruh...

And it feels like only black kids are getting that kind of "he knew what he was doing" treatment...

But it's all good tho bro...
Thanx for Convo

My point is you went to adults and children having sex out of nowhere. You're an adult, what the fukk does that have to do with you? You also asking me that. I'm an adult, what the fukk does that have to do with me or this discussion?
You're extrapolating beyond what is even being discussed and adding other shyt in there idk even what your main goal is with this discussion

 

[Mindfield333]

So he decided to set up a 9 year old kid who had nothing to do with his abuse and take his life?

I watched the video. He wanted the cops to kill him. I wish he got help before he resorted to that. He was also 12 years old. All I know is that if i was the victims grandparent I probably wouldn’t be supporting dude

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

I watched the video. He wanted the cops to kill him. I wish he got help before he resorted to that. He was also 12 years old. All I know is that if i was the victims grandparent I probably wouldn’t be supporting dude

I was could be a kid forever so people can excuse everything I do