Conway the Machine x Big Ghost LTD - "No One Mourns the Wicked" (Discussion Thread)

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Not trying to derail this thread or anything, but what’s the best project from each of these Griselda dudes, iv heard features I have liked but never looked that far into their actual projects...benny seems like the dopest to me :yeshrug:
 
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CourtesyFlush said:
No doubt man. How do you rank the griselda crew?
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1. Benny. He was the last to officially join the crew, and he's my favorite for sure. Tana Talk 3 (produced by Daringer and Alchemist) will be looked at as a modern day classic, and he stepped his flow up even more 6 months later into 2019 on Plugs I Met. Benny is the most versatile of the 3. He can be lyrical and hang with Black Thought without getting completely murked. He can drop life gems and paint dope pictures. He's a little less goon-rap than Conway, and a little more hustler tales. If you haven't heard Plugs I Met and Tana Talk 3, they're must listens. I think Tana Talk 3 is a little better, but it's longer and the flows aren't as polished. So if you need to be sold on Benny, check out Plugs I Met first. Once you're sold, you'll like Tana Talk 3 more.

2. Conway. I think Conway is the best pure emcee out of the crew in terms of flows, cadences, and pockets. When they do those freestyles he blacks out and steals the show. This joint here in the spoiler tags is a perfect example and it's Jay-Z's favorite Conway joint. To be able to rap on this beat before drums could even be added, and to find a pocket like this and flow like that is fukking crazy. He's the best pure flower out of the crew, but I think he's generally the worst beat picker of the 3, and makes the least interesting music and projects out of the 3. Reject 2 (produced by Daringer) and Lulu (produced by Alchemist) are great starting points. GOAT is dope if you want a lot of good guest features too. Oh and The Cow is probably his best verse.



3. Westside Gunn. I think he has the best ear for production out of the 3, and when I feel like listening to his projects there's nothing I'd rather hear. I can't listen to him anytime like I can with Benny and Conway though. Even though he's the worst emcee of the 3, he makes the most interesting sounding (and arguably the best) projects out of the 3. Flygod is his opus, and Pray for Paris, Flygod's and Awesome God, and Supreme Blientele are also great projects. Then either Everybody's Food 1 or Blakk Tape if you want less features.

Edit: @HiiiPower this post's for you too. Also Conway and WSG are brothers and Benny is their cousin.

Don't Get Scared Now is a great project to listen to if you want to hear them back when Mach-Hommy was in the crew instead of Benny, and Griselda Ghost and Hall & Nash 1 are great duo projects with Conway and WSG.
 
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TheDarceKnight said:
100%. The higher pitch voice is a stylistic choice.

All I can say is that on some joints it's more pronounced and on others it's less. It's almost like he's playing a character, almost like a wrestling gimmick.

I liked him more when I stopped trying to view him as an emcee. He's more like a producer/rapper honestly. And he doesn't make beats but he's definitely a producer. He's almost like an indie scene underground Puffy or Dre, where he's doing performance art. He's not super lyrical, but he does this shyt where he'll say something really goon'd out right next to something really luxurious and high art. Something about that dichotomy between high class and super ignorant can be really dope.

I dunno. If you don't like him you aren't alone though. I can only handle his music in small doses. But when it hits it really hits.
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WG is my least favourite because of his voice actually

when he comes in on that track on Royce’s last album

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Rell Lauren said:
The project is cool. It doesn't blow me away.
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Bingo.

For me it's hearing what he's capable of.

The Cow. Proud of Me. Don't Judge Me. You Made It. I Wonder.

The dude can make joints like that and he can hit insane Prodigy circa Hell on Earth day blackout flows on joints like Overdose, '94 Ghost, May Store, Calvin, May Store, EIF 3 title track, Dead Bodies Left, Die on Xmas...

I just wish he'd keep giving us that level of intensity either on the content side or the flow side, because he's clearly got it.

Like someone else said in here, I think he just gives us most of what he records instead of leaving some stuff on the cutting room floor.
 
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TheDarceKnight said:
1. Benny. He was the last to officially join the crew, and he's my favorite for sure. Tana Talk 3 (produced by Daringer and Alchemist) will be looked at as a modern day classic, and he stepped his flow up even more 6 months later into 2019 on Plugs I Met. Benny is the most versatile of the 3. He can be lyrical and hang with Black Thought without getting completely murked. He can drop life gems and paint dope pictures. He's a little less goon-rap than Conway, and a little more hustler tales. If you haven't heard Plugs I Met and Tana Talk 3, they're must listens. I think Tana Talk 3 is a little better, but it's longer and the flows aren't as polished. So if you need to be sold on Benny, check out Plugs I Met first. Once you're sold, you'll like Tana Talk 3 more.

2. Conway. I think Conway is the best pure emcee out of the crew in terms of flows, cadences, and pockets. When they do those freestyles he blacks out and steals the show. This joint here in the spoiler tags is a perfect example and it's Jay-Z's favorite Conway joint. To be able to rap on this beat before drums could even be added, and to find a pocket like this and flow like that is fukking crazy. He's the best pure flower out of the crew, but I think he's generally the worst beat picker of the 3, and makes the least interesting music and projects out of the 3. Reject 2 (produced by Daringer) and Lulu (produced by Alchemist) are great starting points. GOAT is dope if you want a lot of good guest features too. Oh and The Cow is probably his best verse.



3. Westside Gunn. I think he has the best ear for production out of the 3, and when I feel like listening to his projects there's nothing I'd rather hear. I can't listen to him anytime like I can with Benny and Conway though. Even though he's the worst emcee of the 3, he makes the most interesting sounding (and arguably the best) projects out of the 3. Flygod is his opus, and Pray for Paris, Flygod's and Awesome God, and Supreme Blientele are also great projects. Then either Everybody's Food 1 or Blakk Tape if you want less features.

Edit: @HiiiPower this post's for you too. Also Conway and WSG are brothers and Benny is their cousin.

Don't Get Scared Now is a great project to listen to if you want to hear them back when Mach-Hommy was in the crew instead of Benny, and Griselda Ghost and Hall & Nash 1 are great duo projects with Conway and WSG.
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Couldn't have said it better man
 
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