Cop man handles black girl in classroom
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Ronnie Lott
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Listening to horror stories from an educator of 20+ years about these types of situations where the kids fukking up.....
Y'all really have no idea.
Let me ask a question:
If a 80 year old white woman in a old folks home failed to put her phone away when instructed to do so, would you be ok with a cop being called in and dragging her on the floor just as the cop did
26 pages and my thread can't be featured 
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Before I address this, I need to say that I think you and way too many posters are taking liberties with the word "child" here.
Underage? Yes.
Minor. Of course.
"Child", though semantically accurate here, is framing the context of the situation to fit the narrative of some brute using his might to overpower someone excessively. Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this a teenager in a high school? Adolescents (from a clinical standpoint), are not considered "children".
To address your question though, that argument would miss the point. Once she behaves in such a manner, the only way to end any continued disruption is for her to end the behavior. Most of us I believe are in agreement that physical removal of some degree was the only solution. I would say it's not a matter of it being a bigger disruption but a continuation of the initial problem. And again, he didn't pull out a night stick and beat his rent money out of her, he didn't tase her, he didn't shoot her while she was obeying the law minding her business. The only thing i'm critical of concerning his removal is that if the option for another officer or school staff existed to assist him, than that should have been used, because that lessens the chance of injury to everyone.
That's exactly what happened. He tossed her across the room despite her best efforts to stay in the seat.
Did you watch the video?
This guy would have been sentenced to life in prison if he ever did this in China
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LOL!!...see....this is the thinking of someone who "works" with children......but have none of their own.....they simply do not understand and lack compassion......
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He doesn't need to have his own kids to understand that, dude's just incompetent in his job. I wouldn't want this dude anywhere near children.
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I'll google it for you
Cop broke the first rule and only reinforced the behavior. I thought you were an expert on this
What actions required her to be removed right at that moment?
What?!?Look, you're actually one of the very few posters in this thread capable of engaging in this debate with some maturity apparently, so I'm not just trying to sh*t on you and derail the thread again, but did you seriously just google a response for a stock clinical diagnosis, (after announcing that you googled it no less), and expect that to be taken as something of merit??
Whatever you googled isn't even applicable here, it's speaking on children and parenting, not adolescents and non-family authority figures (who happens to be a police officer, not the school counselor).
What warranted her being removed from the class is her behavior becoming problematic in fostering a proper learning environment. The TEACHER decides that, because she (or he) is the one that has to teach the class. It wasn't the cop that made that decision, and it damn sure should never be one of the students.
Apparently, according to a student who posted his school ID on Twitter to verify that he was indeed a student there, said it all started over her chewing gum, he also posted "Phuk the school system" on his twitter account.
This cop is no stranger to this, apparently he nearly ruined a veteran's life after assaulting the veteran and his wife. Veteran says his wife divorced him shortly thereafter cause she felt he couldn't protect her.
The 15-second video of sheriff's deputy Ben Fields slamming a student to the ground sent shivers down Carlos Martin's spine.
After all, he'd been manhandled by the beefy South Carolina cop the same way almost exactly 10 years before.
"I recognized him on the spot. I remembered how big he was," the 36-year-old Army veteran told the Daily News.
Martin had encountered Fields twice before: once in a Columbia, S.C., parking lot during an arrest and later in the courtroom, where Martin and his wife, Tashiana, filed suit against the hulking officer for civil rights violations.
That suit fizzled out during a drawn-out legal process, but Martin still bears the emotional scars from the 2005 confrontation with Fields, who then was a rookie officer with the Richland County Sheriff's Department.
Fields on Monday made national news after video of him throwing a female Spring Valley High School student to the ground during an arrest went viral online. And it brought bad memories cascading back for Martin.
An argument ensued in the broad daylight on Oct. 24, 2005.
Now an actor, Martin had only recently moved to Columbia, South Carolina's capital city, after an overseas stint with the Army in Germany.
He was working at the Moncrief Army Community Hospital at Fort Jackson and ran into Fields when he returned home from a day of work.
Fields was at the apartment complex parking lot, responding to a call for a noise complaint. Martin was playing the music loudly in his car when he pulled in.
Martin said the beefy officer "snapped" after he called him "dude," and slammed him on the ground. He began pepper-spraying the helpless veteran, but Martin said he was trained in the military to resist the chemicals. An entire canister of the stuff failed to disable Martin.
"He became even more violent because I didn't react like most people would," Martin told the News.
His wife at the time, Tashiana Rogers, witnessed the fracas, and ran outside to take photos of the violent encounter with her cellphone.
That's when Fields called for his partner to "get her black ass," Martin said. The officer grabbed her phone and deleted the photos.
Fields then called for backup.
"I'm watching my wife get beat up in front of me, and there's nothing I can do about it," Martin said.
The former medic, who spent 10 years in the service, said his encounter with the hulking officer lead to his divorce and discharge from the military.
Fields said he didn't care that Martin, still in uniform, was a soldier, the former medic said.
During the arrest, Martin told Fields the rough arrest would lead to a lawsuit.
"I'm glad Johnny Cochran is dead," Fields shot back, according to Martin.
The officer also told Martin as he was cuffed that "you're just another notch in my belt," according to court documents.
The criminal charges against both Martin and his wife were dropped, but it took four years to get to trial. During that time, the military considered Martin a criminal and blackballed him, he said.
At the same time, his marriage was falling apart because of the attack. His wife divorced him because she felt he couldn't protect her from the violent cop, he said.
He had been in the military for nearly a decade and married for three years.
The lawsuit was later dismissed because there had been issues with proving excessive force, his criminal trial lawyer, John Mobley told the Daily News. His ex-wife's lawsuit went to court, and the jury ruled in favor of the sheriff's department, he said.
That was shocking. I was definitely shocked that the jury did not find in her favor," Mobley said.
Rogers was shocked too. She worries Fields was allowed to operate with impunity — giving him freedom to terrorize high school students.
"I felt like if he had felt the consequences from 2005, this wouldn't happen today," she told the Daily News.
Army vet recalls rough encounter with S.C. cop
This cop is no stranger to this, apparently he nearly ruined a veteran's life after assaulting the veteran and his wife. Veteran says his wife divorced him shortly thereafter cause she felt he couldn't protect her.
The 15-second video of sheriff's deputy Ben Fields slamming a student to the ground sent shivers down Carlos Martin's spine.
After all, he'd been manhandled by the beefy South Carolina cop the same way almost exactly 10 years before.
"I recognized him on the spot. I remembered how big he was," the 36-year-old Army veteran told the Daily News.
Martin had encountered Fields twice before: once in a Columbia, S.C., parking lot during an arrest and later in the courtroom, where Martin and his wife, Tashiana, filed suit against the hulking officer for civil rights violations.
That suit fizzled out during a drawn-out legal process, but Martin still bears the emotional scars from the 2005 confrontation with Fields, who then was a rookie officer with the Richland County Sheriff's Department.
Fields on Monday made national news after video of him throwing a female Spring Valley High School student to the ground during an arrest went viral online. And it brought bad memories cascading back for Martin.
An argument ensued in the broad daylight on Oct. 24, 2005.
Now an actor, Martin had only recently moved to Columbia, South Carolina's capital city, after an overseas stint with the Army in Germany.
He was working at the Moncrief Army Community Hospital at Fort Jackson and ran into Fields when he returned home from a day of work.
Fields was at the apartment complex parking lot, responding to a call for a noise complaint. Martin was playing the music loudly in his car when he pulled in.
Martin said the beefy officer "snapped" after he called him "dude," and slammed him on the ground. He began pepper-spraying the helpless veteran, but Martin said he was trained in the military to resist the chemicals. An entire canister of the stuff failed to disable Martin.
"He became even more violent because I didn't react like most people would," Martin told the News.
His wife at the time, Tashiana Rogers, witnessed the fracas, and ran outside to take photos of the violent encounter with her cellphone.
That's when Fields called for his partner to "get her black ass," Martin said. The officer grabbed her phone and deleted the photos.
Fields then called for backup.
"I'm watching my wife get beat up in front of me, and there's nothing I can do about it," Martin said.
The former medic, who spent 10 years in the service, said his encounter with the hulking officer lead to his divorce and discharge from the military.
Fields said he didn't care that Martin, still in uniform, was a soldier, the former medic said.
During the arrest, Martin told Fields the rough arrest would lead to a lawsuit.
"I'm glad Johnny Cochran is dead," Fields shot back, according to Martin.
The officer also told Martin as he was cuffed that "you're just another notch in my belt," according to court documents.
The criminal charges against both Martin and his wife were dropped, but it took four years to get to trial. During that time, the military considered Martin a criminal and blackballed him, he said.
At the same time, his marriage was falling apart because of the attack. His wife divorced him because she felt he couldn't protect her from the violent cop, he said.
He had been in the military for nearly a decade and married for three years.
The lawsuit was later dismissed because there had been issues with proving excessive force, his criminal trial lawyer, John Mobley told the Daily News. His ex-wife's lawsuit went to court, and the jury ruled in favor of the sheriff's department, he said.
That was shocking. I was definitely shocked that the jury did not find in her favor," Mobley said.
Rogers was shocked too. She worries Fields was allowed to operate with impunity — giving him freedom to terrorize high school students.
"I felt like if he had felt the consequences from 2005, this wouldn't happen today," she told the Daily News.
Army vet recalls rough encounter with S.C. cop
New Jeruzalem Journalist
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Listening to horror stories from an educator of 20+ years about these types of situations where the kids fukking up.....
Y'all really have no idea.
I mean, seriously. I'm hoping it's just because they're failing to distinguish this specific incident from the hundreds of examples we have and know about of police breaking the law to suit their own selfish and/or racist needs. If that's the case, even though I disagree with them, I can understand where they're coming from.
But if it's not based on a reaction to the current climate of policing, and they legit think these kids are justified and that "time out" or detention is gonna make schools better or safer, then good gawd are they in for a rude awakening in a few years.
I told you the truth from my own experience first. You pivoted from the truth so I gathered an expert opinion to back up my own.
Look, you're actually one of the very few posters in this thread capable of engaging in this debate with some maturity apparently, so I'm not just trying to sh*t on you and derail the thread again, but did you seriously just google a response for a stock clinical diagnosis, (after announcing that you googled it no less), and expect that to be taken as something of merit??
Whatever you googled isn't even applicable here, it's speaking on children and parenting, not adolescents and non-family authority figures (who happens to be a police officer, not the school counselor).
You made claims to be an expert on the subject but have yet to provide any precedent for this being a reasonable disciplinary strategy.
What did she do that required she be removed from the class?
Officer was in the wrong, that much force should not have been used initially, no way no how.
One of the best things I did was stop working in the public school system, there is really no win in these situations
When I was in Barringer @skeetsinternal @Willstyles @Newark88 I saw security take a kid out of a class by handcuffing his ankles and wrist
One of the best things I did was stop working in the public school system, there is really no win in these situations
When I was in Barringer @skeetsinternal @Willstyles @Newark88 I saw security take a kid out of a class by handcuffing his ankles and wrist