Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic

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[Althalucian]

People are starting to lose their minds in here.

Go outside and get some vitamin D. Safely.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Got a touch testy in here. Let’s reset today. Everybody is frustrated but I don’t think anybody is trolling.

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[nyknick]

Nope. Most people hooked on heroin first got started by using medicine prescribed by doctors. These irresponsible doctors and pharm companies pushed opioids like crazy to the public. There has been much written about this. Opioid addiction is one of the hardest things to stop. Have you ever been addicted? You can’t just stop. Rehab is needed in most cases, but nobody wants to use tax dollars to pay for it.

Then you have the families and children of addicts growing up in a terrible situation, depression, higher risk for addiction, etc.

Now, look at cigarettes. fukking 480k people died from cigarettes a year. fukking half a million. Do we give a shyt? Do we outlaw cigs? Nope. Then you have second hand smoke leading to death as well. Do we care? No. Big tobacco has lobbyists to persuade the government to do nothing about the epidemic.

Well, why can’t people just stop? It’s not that easy. I started smoking when I was 16. I was not mature enough to care about the risks, and I smoked on and off for like 20 years. I did quit eventually, but it was very difficult.

If we wanna be callous, older folks can take precautions to minimize their corona virus risks too.

I dunno it’s difficult to think about, but I think older folks are seen as more valuable than younger folks by the government, and this lockdown shows that.

All those examples you listed combined wouldn't total the number of deaths we would have if no action was taken regarding covid-19.

And lets not pretend like there are no laws regarding cigarettes, drugs, driving and other issues.

Like others have pointed out covid-19 is not just harming one individual or close family but also affects other unwitting people.

Just saying economy is open and forcing people to go back to work will not stop the slide. People that have options and value their lives will refuse.

Economy will be doing even worse if it was 'open' and 15k people a day were dying. Nobody in their right mind will go to restaurants, concerts and sporting events.


Lets take the family to see the Knicks, sure grandma is going to die but we get so see Julius Randle and Dolan gets his revenue. Well worth it

 

[TheDarceKnight]

"OH, the economy is more important. Who cares about people over 60?"

Who make them arguments, outside of basement dwellers and serial killers?

The funny thing is too is that even assuming the virus isn't taking out young people (and it is) 60 ain't even that young. Life expectancy are going up every single year, and who knows how much it will increase over the next 10-15 years with the rate anti-aging technology and medicine is going.

Also, since our economy is kind of a house of cards, and people's 401ks and retirement got lost in the 2008 collapse, people over 60 are still in large part working and contributing to our economy. Cats in this thread are acting like everyone over 60 is in a nursing home just ready to clock out or some shyt like that. There are people 60, hell, 65 or even 70, that have no ability to retire anytime soon. These people are actively contributing to our economy and deserve as much protection as anyone else.

AND EVEN IF THEY WERE ALL in retirement homes and assisted living...they still deserve protection, and they're still our fellow citizens. We have a societal obligation to protect each other, and this whole "I don't give a fukk about people because I want to return to normalcy" (whatever that is going to look like) is gross and stupid.

EDIT: I do think life is for the living. My mom is 65 and told me she doesn't wanna die from this but if she does she doesn't want me to be too broken up. She said she wants me to celebrate her life and not mourn it, because she's lived a good life, and had her time in the sun, and now it's our generation's time. I can respect that. So I do get where the other side is coming from on this. I just don't think we're even close to a situation at this point where it's helpful to just let older people start dying off. And again, it would kill many young people too.

 

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[Dillah810]

My company just did their 1st round of layoffs due to COVID-19 and I'm one of them. Luckily I get a severance pay so that'll hold me over for about a month. I was kind of expecting it, but still sucks.

 

[nyknick]

AND EVEN IF THEY WERE ALL in retirement homes and assisted living...they still deserve protection, and they're still our fellow citizens. We have a societal obligation to protect each other, and this whole "I don't give a fukk about people because I want to return to normalcy" (whatever that is going to look like) is gross and stupid.

You would think that we would try our best to protect our most vulnerable population. But old people are getting zero love and respect.

Get old brehs

 

[acri1]

My company just did their 1st round of layoffs due to COVID-19 and I'm one of them. Luckily I get a severance pay so that'll hold me over for about a month. I was kind of expecting it, but still sucks.

Sorry to hear that...I'd suggest getting your unemployment application in ASAP.

 

[inndaskKy]

My company just did their 1st round of layoffs due to COVID-19 and I'm one of them. Luckily I get a severance pay so that'll hold me over for about a month. I was kind of expecting it, but still sucks.

That sucks breh. My advice would be to get another job immediately, doesn't matter if it's something completely different from what you've ever done. If it's something demeaning. Don't be complacent and rely on the stimulus payout. In this time of isolation it's important to stay engaged with participating in society, for your mental health. Just find a regular job again once this whole isolation business is over. You'll be ok.

 

[Dillah810]

Sorry to hear that...I'd suggest getting your unemployment application in ASAP.

This is my 1st time having a job that offered severance. Do you still qualify for unemployment if you accept the severance?

 

[Bobhoward]

I’ve gone through the various stages on this whole situation from thinking it would be no big deal, to being upset it’s changed my travel plans etc, but I don’t know how you can look at what’s going on in NYC, Italy, Spain and elsewhere and think that kind of death and sickness is worth sending people back out for. Read what’s going on with some of the brehs in this thread or elsewhere.. I saw yesterday that some dude who is 50 and has run like 20 marathons died from covid.. this is a serious and dangerous virus for everyone. the status quo economy we had pre covid is not worth potentially dying for.

 

[nyknick]

Death Count Expected To Soar As NYC Says It Will Begin Reporting Probable COVID Deaths In Addition To Confirmed Ones

New York City officials will begin to count suspected COVID-19 deaths of people who die at home following a WNYC/Gothamist report revealing a staggering number of such deaths that were not included in the official tally.

In a statement, Stephanie Buhle, a spokeswoman for New York City’s Health Department, said the city would no longer report only those cases that were confirmed by a laboratory test.

Over the last two weeks, FDNY officials said 2,192 New York City residents died in their homes, compared to 453 during the same time period last year. On Tuesday evening, the city reported 3,544 people have died of coronavirus, as confirmed by lab tests.

Earlier in the day, Mayor Bill de Blasio acknowledged that the vast majority of deaths taking place at home were likely also due to the virus, meaning the death toll could be as much as 70 percent higher than currently reported figures.

“We do want to know the truth about every death at home, but it’s safe to assume that the vast majority are coronavirus related,” he said. “That makes it even more sober, the sense of how many people we are losing.”

An FDNY paramedic who asked his name not be used because he wasn’t authorized to speak to reporters said he’s watched a dramatic shift over the past three weeks. First, he was called to attend to people with mild symptoms and anxiety about being sick; the second week, it was critically ill patients who were rushed to the hospital.

“This week it went from critical patients, to just cardiac arrests all over the place,” he said. “We get there and the family’s telling us, ‘We went to the hospital five days ago and they discharged us’ or ‘We stayed home. We called our doctor. We called 311, a tele-doc gave us a prescription for a Z-pack this morning.’ And now they’re dying.”

The paramedic called the situation demoralizing. He spoke to WNYC/Gothamist while waiting for police officers to respond to the scene of one home death in Brooklyn on Tuesday morning.

“What we’re seeing now is people literally dropping dead at home” he said. “Nothing we do helps.”

 

[Hood Critic]

Coronavirus May ‘Reactivate’ in Cured Patients, Korean CDC Says

The coronavirus may be “reactivating” in people who have been cured of the illness, according to Korea’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

About 51 patients classed as having been cured in South Korea have tested positive again, the CDC said in a briefing on Monday. Rather than being infected again, the virus may have been reactivated in these people, given they tested positive again shortly after being released from quarantine, said Jeong Eun-kyeong, director-general of the Korean CDC.

At this point testing could be faulty, treatment could be insufficient or not lasting long enough, re-infection or worst case, you never fully get cured and are susceptible to re-activation.

 

[acri1]

This is my 1st time having a job that offered severance. Do you still qualify for unemployment if you accept the severance?

Well, last time I applied for unemployment was the late 2000s (got laid off of my first job out of college when the last recession hit), so shyt might've changed, but at least back then I was still able to get unemployment and severance at the same time.