Cost of living in NYC :merchant: Can YOU afford it?

[NotaPAWG]

I like that it's literally the city that never sleeps. Anywhere else I've been, everything she's down by 1 or 2. I like that transit is 24hrs, and from where I live I can be anywhere in 30min or less. Different types of food and cultures. There's little Korea, little Italy, Chinatown, little Caribbean etc. so much more. Honestly if you've never lived here, you wouldn't understand

Thanks for actually answering.

the 24/7 transit and places being open all night def isn’t something we have here. i think buses stop going around 10-11 around here. sucks for the single mom or just family in general who either doesn’t have a car and gets out of work late etc

we got all that food here, prob not as much as an abundance though

 

[BigMan]

what amenities do black people or NYers want/have access to that i don’t in Spfld Mass?

springfield has maybe 50,000 blacks compared to 2 million in NYC. In 2010, the median household income of black New Yorkers was $57,847 vs. an estimate of $34,311 for ALL of Springfield MA (undoubtedly, more blacks are on the lower scale in Massachusetts)http://furmancenter.org/files/sotc/..._Makeup_of_New_York_City_Neighborhoods_11.pdf
the cultural amenties do not even compare so I'm not going to address them. Springfield doesn't have a Harlem or Bed Stuy let alone a Southeast Queens (full of high income black homeowners)
access to stable and high paying jobs in public and private sector doesn't compare so I won't address either.
New York city and state provide much more social welfare for poor New York residents
public transportation is FAR superior (MTA subway and buses, LIRR, Metro North, PATH, etc. )
for black immigrants, NYC offers services in their languages (Creole, Spanish, French, Igbo, Yoruba, etc.)
easy access to two international airports (Newark and JFK)
free instate tuition
closer access to HBCUs in the Mid Atlantic (Morgan State, Howard, etc.)
large black professional and alumni organizations and networks across professions.
greater access to diversity and scholarship programs and fellowships offered by large corporations, firms, etc. (For example, i was just refereed to a scholarship opportunity that only offered interviews in NYC. For a Springfield MA resident to even get to the city it would take 4 hours. That Springfield resident is effectively barred from those types of opportunties)

its absolutely laughable that you a white person would name compare anything in New England to any other city let alone NYC.

 

[Wild self]

That's the real shyt no poster in this thread or any NY thread wants to admit because of ego. If you search right now for apartments in New York you're not going to find one for under $1,500/month for 1 bedroom.

You womt even find 1 fukking bedroom for 1,500 a month.

Some poster said he paid $1,350 a month for a 600sqft one bedroom in the Bronx and it was a good deal. The Bronx is dirty as shyt and far as fukk from downtown Manhattan and it's still more than a mortgage payment for an entire house in every other state in the country.

Apartments in Harlem are a minimum of $1,800 a month and they look like shytholes. Graffiti all over the buildings, garbage piled up right in front of the door and lining the sidewalks. You pay $1,800 a month for a 500sqft apartment in a old ass building and the first thing you see when you walk out your building is garbage and graffiti?

Brooklyn and Queens apartments are a minimum of $2,000 a month, and that's for studios. They really live like roaches over there because if you make 75k you're spending 60% of your take home pay on rent unless you have a roommate. Not building equity, not savings, not investing, more than half your money is spent just so you can live in a run down building in a cramped unit, with no car, with garbage on the sidewalk, and rats and roaches in your building.

It's outrageous that someone had to spend a MINIMUM of $2,500 every single month just to life in a building thats not a complete POS. There's nothing in NYC that justifies that kind of price .

The one poster said it best, they try to justify it as winning just because they're getting raped less. All them east coast guys are getting raped, and they know it.

I do a ban bet that nobody can find an example of a good one bedroom anywhere in NY for less than $2,000/month, it's disgusting.

When none of these dudes talk about WEALTH and only talk about paying bills and having access to "entertainment" that DC, ATL, Houston and others already have. Hell, most of it involves chasing p*ssy in some way, so might as well do it in a place where the climate is better and coat of living is cheaper.

B b b bu but access.....makes no sense if you too broke to even spend money on it. Its like getting teased relentlessly.

 

[Azul]

Think that two malls match the arts/entertainment/dining options of Manhattan and Greenpoint/Williamsburg/Downtown Brooklyn brehs.

If you're living in one of the "nicer" areas of the Bronx, you might as well move to Westchester and not pay New York City income tax. Also, you act like $400K for a house is a good deal. By NYC standards, sure, but in Chicago I could buy the dopest loft apartment in the best part of the city for that. NYC is garbage.

Whether or not it is a good deal is not germane to my argument.

What dining options are you referring to? Some of you really think the Bx is some barren wasteland huh?

 

[IVS]

NYC used to be great. When there wasn't a Louis store in every high end mall in ritzy areas. Or when you could not go to Wegmans or Whole Foods and get a Wagyu steak, or whatever. Times done kind of changed. There is almost nothing that you can only get in NYC anymore. Who cares that you can party all night....That mystique should be gone. Its a hyped up city because of big ass buildings and history, but thats about it for now. Its overcrowded, dirty and it stinks, and it as become characterless and soul-less rich peoples playground. Dont get me wrong tho, there still pockets of wonderful things happening in each borough.

 

[BigMan]

Even I have to say that's dumb af and I hate NYC

lol i'm going to ask my cousins in Boston if they agree. ALL of them want to move to NYC or DC.

cause you have no point.

we got mad job opportunities up here, especially for felons and people trying to change their life. enter level manufacturing jobs that aren’t ideal, but they help poor people, people of color and immigrants get on their feet a lot. our benefits in terms of helping out the struggling are better, our justice system, our schooling etc

do you even have that in New York?

i guess riding the MTA and being a two minutes walk away from a chopped cheese is worth 2k a month for mediocrity

proof?

New York State and City have quite robust social welfare programs for all their issues.

 

[IVS]

Not worth it anymore.
Saving money and being frugal is crucial at this point, so residing in nyc is a non-starter unless Im raking in over 150K annually. Other wise Id be husling backwards just to say I live in new york.
I can understand feeling an attachment to your home town etc, but I cant imagine what nyc has these days that over cities do not.

Exactly! Except for really tall buildings that impede your view of the heavens.

 

[Wild self]

Not true, there are a lot of apartments in The Bronx, and parts of Brooklyn and Queens for 1300 a month. Not saying that's cheap, but you don't have to be super rich to find a place.

And NYC is by far the most urban city in the USA, it has a lot to offer and that's why people pay so much to live there.

I love the old apartment buildings, they have a lot of soul as opposed to the suburbanesque housing a lot of US cities have. Dallas and Houston look like giant suburbs.

Being clean >>>being dirty

 

[Rockstar Mom]

Whether or not it is a good deal is not germane to my argument.

What dining options are you referring to? Some of you really think the Bx is some barren wasteland huh?

People keep referring to South Bronx that they see on tv shows, as the whole Bronx.

The Bronx is actually pretty fukking nice. Too far for me tho. I'm too lazy to travel longer than 30 min

 

[NotaPAWG]

springfield has maybe 50,000 blacks compared to 2 million in NYC. In 2010, the median household income of black New Yorkers was $57,847 vs. an estimate of $34,311 for ALL of Springfield MA (undoubtedly, more blacks are on the lower scale in Massachusetts)http://furmancenter.org/files/sotc/..._Makeup_of_New_York_City_Neighborhoods_11.pdf
the cultural amenties do not even compare so I'm not going to address them. Springfield doesn't have a Harlem or Bed Stuy let alone a Southeast Queens (full of high income black homeowners)
access to stable and high paying jobs in public and private sector doesn't compare so I won't address either.
New York city and state provide much more social welfare for poor New York residents
public transportation is FAR superior (MTA subway and buses, LIRR, Metro North, PATH, etc. )
for black immigrants, NYC offers services in their languages (Creole, Spanish, French, Igbo, Yoruba, etc.)
easy access to two international airports (Newark and JFK)
free instate tuition
closer access to HBCUs in the Mid Atlantic (Morgan State, Howard, etc.)
large black professional and alumni organizations and networks across professions.
greater access to diversity and scholarship programs and fellowships offered by large corporations, firms, etc. (For example, i was just refereed to a scholarship opportunity that only offered interviews in NYC. For a Springfield MA resident to even get to the city it would take 4 hours. That Springfield resident is effectively barred from those types of opportunties)

its absolutely laughable that you a white person would name compare anything in New England to any other city let alone NYC.

the discrepancy in income levels itself out when the cost of living here is the 1/3rd of what it is in New York..

and you’re comparing the percentage of an entire State to Springfield lol stop the bullshyt man

 

[BigMan]

the discrepancy in income levels itself out when the cost of living here is the 1/3rd of what it is in New York..

and you’re comparing the percentage of an entire State to Springfield lol stop the bullshyt man

are you dumb? i put the link right there. the mdi for black new yorkers in majority black tracts is $57,847 right there on page 4.
And there 2 million blacks in NYC alone. Look it up.
i didn't even get into how if you are in the legal industry, medical, tech, or media industries your chances of getting a job and succeeding are much higher in NYC than Springfield.

you didn't even address the other parts of my posts.

can you even easily get a barrel to send back ah yard in Springfield ?
do you even know what i mean by that?

 

[damn_ese]

@The Hierophant
i think its some bullshyt like 650 sq ft

 

[TNOT]

When none of these dudes talk about WEALTH and only talk about paying bills and having access to "entertainment" that DC, ATL, Houston and others already have. Hell, most of it involves chasing p*ssy in some way, so might as well do it in a place where the climate is better and coat of living is cheaper.

B b b bu but access.....makes no sense if you too broke to even spend money on it. Its like getting teased relentlessly.

Take Houston off that list. For a city it's size it doesn't offer much in forms entertainment.
Especially if you're black.
nikkas won't admit it but your options are limited.

And you got to drive everywhere

 

[Wild self]

People keep referring to South Bronx that they see on tv shows, as the whole Bronx.

The Bronx is actually pretty fukking nice. Too far for me tho. I'm too lazy to travel longer than 30 min

South BX is dirty still. And on top of that if you black. Ask @skeetsinternal. How he feels about the south BX.

 

[Wild self]

Take Houston off that list. For a city it's size it doesn't offer much in forms entertainment.
Especially if you're black.
nikkas won't admit it but your options are limited.

And you got to drive everywhere

NYC dont have upscale entertainment if you black as well. Half those places, don't even want your black ass in there

And nothing wrong with driving as long as is not rush hour. Get you wealth and life skills up.

People at this point want a higher STANDARD of living.