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Look at the some of the elite perimeter players we've seen in the past 15 years.

T-Mac, Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Durant. Joe isn't as skilled as any of those players.

I think you're mixing up caliber of player with actual skillset. Joe doesnt deserve to be mentioned among any of those players but offensively what do those players have over Joe?



 

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No player in the last 20 years had more raw talent than Rasheed Wallace.


Nah, Tracy McGrady had more raw talent than Sheed, he's probably the most naturally gifted dude outside of Bron. Sheed was pretty skilled, he had a great skillset but played away from the traits that could have made him a HOFer.


Another dude was a lot of raw talent is Josh Smith, he didn't seem to give a fukk about working on his game, but still managed to average 19ppg, 10rpg, 4apg, 2bpg, 1spg in a season, without a ton of skill.
 

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Nah, Tracy McGrady had more raw talent than Sheed, he's probably the most naturally gifted dude outside of Bron. Sheed was pretty skilled, he had a great skillset but played away from the traits that could have made him a HOFer.


Another dude was a lot of raw talent is Josh Smith, he didn't seem to give a fukk about working on his game, but still managed to average 19ppg, 10rpg, 4apg, 2bpg, 1spg in a season, without a ton of skill.
I agree, T-Mac was something else the way he moved his body on the court shyt looked like he was dancing on the court. Effortless. Too bad he wasn't working hard enough in the practice, I think Jeff Van Gundy said he wished he made T-Mac go practice more because his career would have been different.

I never understood josh smith, in atlanta his defense was great, he could play both 3 and 4 positions, he was like mini Bron, but he didnt work on his shooting enough, if he developed a decent 3pt shot he would have been something else. Instead he started jacking up 3pt shots just hoping maybe some fall in.
 

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Some players are determined to become the best they can be at their craft. Others are determined to get that big contract, knowing that they're set for life outside of ball.

Joe Johnson's career was never the same after Atlanta gave him that max contract.

Joe was given every opportunity before and after that contract in Atlanta to be a "superstar". The truth is that even with his skill set (and he was very talented), he lacked the mental toughness, heart and desire to be a superstar
 

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Show me the statistics of him being one of the greatest isolation scorers. He is isojoe cause thats his game but not because he was this near all time level great at it. When I say polish his game wasn't unstoppable or game changing like some of the others. He was good but anybody thinking he had the skill set to be more than just a allstar is delusional.
Aint Reggie Miller in the HOF:yeshrug:
 

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So far he's been in the league for 15 years, was a 7x all star and has scored 19,318 points. He could reach 20k points this year. Not to mention he got paid a lot of money.

Sounds like a very good career to me
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Some players are determined to become the best they can be at their craft. Others are determined to get that big contract, knowing that they're set for life outside of ball.

Joe Johnson's career was never the same after Atlanta gave him that max contract.


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