Could this cavs or warriors teams run threw the east and west back in the 80's and 90's

[Pure Water]

Absolutely. Especially the 90s.

 

[Harleminthe80s]

With illegal Defense

Kyrie
Lebron
Curry
KD
All being guarded 1on 1
They probably will lose some games but they would make it to a couple finals

 

[Malta]

You would have a stronger argument if the bulls attempted the same amount of 3s in 98 as they did in 96 and 97.

In 98 the bulls as a team shot only 962 3s which averages to 12 a game for 82 games.

in 97 the bulls as a team shot 1403 3s which averages to 17 a game for 82 games.

in 96 the bulls as a team shot 1349 3s which averages to 16 a game for 82 games.

Why this is important is because the 3pt shot is a groove and rhythm shot, the more of those shots you take the better your percentages are usually. If you only take 1 or 2 a game as a player you don't develop the consistency and rhythm needed to consistently make the shots. so the bulls dropped off 400-500 attempts from 97 to 98 and ultimately that was a bigger reason why them as a team fell from 3pt percentages more than the line being pushed back

This post is the epitome of

They stopped shooting the 3 as often because the line was moved back and they weren't as accurate from that distance, period. Their attempts went back to what they were pre-shortened line and they could not shoot the 3 the way teams do today on high volume & high accuracy from the original 3 line.

Your post is pretty worthy in your attempts to deflect.

 

[R=G]

Warriors can't stop the Lakers at all. U know the answer to the 90s. Waste of time.

 

[Smashius Clay]

There is definitely a case to be made about the league being much tougher back then:

"Riley improved the Knicks through defense. He taught them to rotate quickly and he taught them to allow nothing easy. Riley saw the league getting more physical and he decided to push it. He espoused the infamous phrase, "No layups allowed." Numerically, the Knicks’ improvement from ’91 to ’92 was 1 point offensive and 3 points defensive; the Knicks’ offensive rating (points per 100 possessions) went from 105.4 to 106.4 and its defensive rating went from 105.6 to 102.3. They did it by fouling an extra 2 times per game and sending opponents to the line an extra 3 times per game."

Source

With that said, there are too many damn shooters these days and the older teams will get exploited. We'd have bigs left on an island with KD or LBJ and there's be nothing they can do about it.

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

Nobody is guarding Rodman or Longley on offense, and both the Cavs & Warriors are more than capable of guarding EVERYONE outside of Hakeem.


Also, Longley & Kukoc get destroyed on those switches where they get the job of guarding KD, Bron, Steph, Kyrie.

Nah, they'd have to respect Rodman's 3PPG ass

 

[afterlife2009]

The teams the 80's Lakers teams played going into the Finals.

look at 1984, 1987

1979-80
WCSF - 55-27 Phoenix Suns
WCF - 56-26 Seattle Supersonics

1981-82
WCSF - 46-36 Phoenix Suns
WCF - 48-34 San Antonio Spurs

1982-83
WCSF - 46-36 Portland Trailblazers
WCF - 53-29 San Antonio Spurs

1983-84
1st RD - 38-44 Kansas City Kings
WCSF - 43-39 Dallas Mavericks
WCF - 41-41 Phoenix Suns

1984-85
1st RD - 36-46 Phoenix Suns
WCSF - 42-40 Portland Trailblazers
WCF - 52-30 Denver Nuggets

1986-87
1st RD - 37-45 Denver Nuggets
WCSF - 42-40 Golden State Warriors
WCF - 39-43 Seattle Supersonics

1987-88
1st RD - 31-51 San Antonio Spurs
WCSF - 47-35 Utah Jazz
WCF - 53-29 Dallas Mavericks

1988-89
1st RD - 39-43 Portland Trailblazers
WCSF - 47-35 Seattle Supersonics
WCF - 55-27 Phoenix Suns

 

[The_Third_Man]

NAH
TOO MANY DOMINANT BIGS




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yep Luc Longley/Cartwight vs Ostertag/Ervin Johnson/Perkins/Duckworth/Vidac/Oliver Miller matchups were legendary. Warriors, Spurs and Cav would get destroyed inside.

 

[KingJay]

No way. I'm not saying they never make it to the finals, but they struggle getting there. LA, Boston, Philly, Detroit, etc. could all take them.

 

[The Fire]

IF WE'RE PLAYING BY 2DAYS RULES...

IF WE'RE PLAYING PHYSICAL BALL...
NOPE



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[ISO]

LMAO

HOW CAN YOU WATCH THIS ERA
AND MAKE SUCH A BOLD FACE LIE?




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Bold face lie? Nobody got more phantom fouls on post fadeaways than MJ. Stop it.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Like I said before...how was the 90's so much more physical than today if this guy was allowed to eat and become an allstar?

Not just an all-star....that little guy was 1st-team All-NBA.

Little Mark Price as 1st-team All-NBA but the Warriors are gonna be scared of the physicality.

WAIT
WHO IS GUARDING JORDAN?

LONGLEY COULD MAKE
MID RANGE SHOTS ALL DAY
IF YOU DONT GUARD HIM.



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Wait a second...at various times both Drexler and Reggie have been named as one of the tougher matchups Jordan had, because they were the only guys he was facing who were as long as he was.

Klay is just as big as either of them AND a far better and smarter defender than both of them.

Klay wouldn't shut MJ down, but he'd do at least as good a job against Jordan as anyone in Jordan's era did.

I can't see the warriors running through hakeems rockets.

Hakeem would drop 40 and 20 on zaza and mcgee and draymond. And that team was perfectly built around hakeem.

They might have a tough time with the spurs as well because of The Admiral

1987: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 6 in the 2nd round by the Sonics with Alton Lister at center
1988: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 4 in the 1st round by the Mavs with James Donaldson at center.
1989: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 4 in the 1st round by the Sonics with Alton Lister at center
1990: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 4 in the 1st round by the Lakers with Vlade Divac at center
1991: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 3 in the 1st round by the Lakers with Vlade Divac at center
1992: Hakeem's Rockets miss the playoffs
1993: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 7 in the 2nd round by the Sonics with Shawn Kemp at center
1996: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 4 in the 1st round by the Sonics with Ervin Johnson at center
1997: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 6 in the WCF by the Jazz with Greg Ostertag at center
1998: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 5 in the 1st round by the Jazz with Greg Foster at center


Don't front like you needed a great center to beat Hakeem's teams. The Dream had one crazy run his rookie year with 7'4" Sampson basically playing PF, and then the two title runs when the league was as low-talent as it had been in a minute with 6 expansion teams AND no Jordan.

Back in the 1980s and 1990s most teams were just a star, a sidekick, and role players. That's why Hakeem was able to run through the league with the lineup he had. Those Hakeem teams would have been DESTROYED by Golden State at every position except center. The Dream would drop 40 and 20 and still lose by 30. I'm sure you're too young to remember, but he had lines like that in loses even back then against far less talented squads than Golden State.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Not just an all-star....that little guy was 1st-team All-NBA.

Little Mark Price as 1st-team All-NBA but the Warriors are gonna be scared of the physicality.






Wait a second...at various times both Drexler and Reggie have been named as one of the tougher matchups Jordan had, because they were the only guys he was facing who were as long as he was.

Klay is just as big as either of them AND a far better and smarter defender than both of them.

Klay wouldn't shut MJ down, but he'd do at least as good a job against Jordan as anyone in Jordan's era did.





1987: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 6 in the 2nd round by the Sonics with Alton Lister at center
1988: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 4 in the 1st round by the Mavs with James Donaldson at center.
1989: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 4 in the 1st round by the Sonics with Alton Lister at center
1990: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 4 in the 1st round by the Lakers with Vlade Divac at center
1991: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 3 in the 1st round by the Lakers with Vlade Divac at center
1992: Hakeem's Rockets miss the playoffs
1993: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 7 in the 2nd round by the Sonics with Shawn Kemp at center
1996: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 4 in the 1st round by the Sonics with Ervin Johnson at center
1997: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 6 in the WCF by the Jazz with Greg Ostertag at center
1998: Hakeem's Rockets eliminated in 5 in the 1st round by the Jazz with Greg Foster at center


Don't front like you needed a great center to beat Hakeem's teams. The Dream had one crazy run his rookie year with 7'4" Sampson basically playing PF, and then the two title runs when the league was as low-talent as it had been in a minute with 6 expansion teams AND no Jordan.

Back in the 1980s and 1990s most teams were just a star, a sidekick, and role players. That's why Hakeem was able to run through the league with the lineup he had. Those Hakeem teams would have been DESTROYED by Golden State at every position except center. The Dream would drop 40 and 20 and still lose by 30. I'm sure you're too young to remember, but he had lines like that in loses even back then against far less talented squads than Golden State.

I've got a permanent both on and of this site trying to explain to people that this is a team sport and one person alone is almost never the difference maker. Sometimes you play brilliant and your team loses and sometimes you get to play like shyt and your team wins. Every contender has 7-9 other guys who play meaningful minutes in the rotation besides the star player.

 

[mastermind]

What I love about these threads is that the 90s were some how the best basketball ever followed by the 80s.

If I asked would these teams beat the 60s Celtics or the '77 Blazers or early 70s Knicks, most of the responses would be hell yeah and that they are better athletes today and the game has evolved.