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Ok devil's advocate - What do the 6 finals losses mean?

What does it mean that Durant Curry Kawhi Dirk and Timmy all beat him for rings? And Kobe perhaps would have as well if he didn't lose to Dwight in the ECF?

What do the 6 finals losses mean?
In the grand scheme of things, not much. Other than 2011 which is a huge blemish in GOAT talks, the finals losses are the same as losing in any other round. It means you made it farther than all but 1 team. It’s cool to talk about now but he also beat: Duncan, Kawhi, Curry, Westbrook, Harden, so it’s not like his finals opposition was Swiss cheese when he won rings.

He’s won rings on 3 different franchises in both conferences. His legacy can’t be rewritten at this point. According to that logic, his Lakers years are better than his Cavs years because he’s 1-1 in the West and was 1-5 in the Finals as a Cav
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In the grand scheme of things, not much. Other than 2011 which is a huge blemish in GOAT talks, the finals losses are the same as losing in any other round. It means you made it farther than all but 1 team. It’s cool to talk about now but he also beat: Duncan, Kawhi, Curry, Westbrook, Harden, so it’s not like his finals opposition was Swiss cheese when he won rings.

He’s won rings on 3 different franchises in both conferences. His legacy can’t be rewritten at this point. According to that logic, his Lakers years are better than his Cavs years because he’s 1-1 in the West and was 1-5 in the Finals as a Cav
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You understand It's only natural to ask that after you mentioned rings as being what sets him apart from his peers. I just thought it was interesting that you went with that.

All those guys have winning records against him in the Finals, with the exception of Kawhi who he's tied 1-1 with.

And the Heat have two of those Finals losses just for the record. Three different teams, 4 different stops.

2 losses with the Heat, 4 with the Cavs.

Thanks for your very interesting perspective on that matter. :ehh:
 

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He's played almost 300 games than Jordan

Over 4k more ft attempts than MJ. This is really just a longevity and consistency record.
MJ has accomplished whatever he did because of the era, opportunities and longevity

If i had taken ball seriously, i could have broken his record. His accomplishments are really just an opportunity, longevity and consistency record.

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Niccas claiming other past greats didn’t want this record it any record is silly

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Niccas be trying too hard to bring others down or downgrade their accomplishments :mjlol:


Coli be on some true Hater shyt:russ:
 

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At that point, I think you'd have to put him at #1 just for the longevity and sustained greatness.

No other player in league history could've had this level of greatness.
No participation trophies allowed so we can’t just do that
 

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WE KNOW THIS.

MJ & MALONE COULD HAVE
HAD THIS RECORD BUT
DIDNT GIVE A fukk ABOUT IT.

IT WAS NEVER A THING.
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I haven't seen a poster look like a loser hater as bad as you like EVER in 24 hours :russ: all these years of you acting like you wasn't a true Hatin ass nikka. Your talking points getting no daps..nikkas countering ya weak points with ease. Tread carefully
 

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Ok devil's advocate - What do the 6 finals losses mean?

What does it mean that Durant Curry Kawhi Dirk and Timmy all beat him for rings? And Kobe perhaps would have as well if he didn't lose to Dwight in the ECF?

What do the 6 finals losses mean?
It means that he went to the finals for almost half of his career and faced dynasties in the process. Bron spent the first half of his career elevating a team that would be in the lottery without him and the second half of his career with a spot in the finals every season (partially because of an inferior conference-- though other greats, like MJ, played in an inferior league). The result is 4 rings in 19 seasons.. a similar win percentage as Kareem, Timmy, and Kobe. All of whom never spent 8 seasons with a supporting cast like the 2003-2010 Cavs, lost teammates in the finals due to injury like the 2015 Cavs, dragged some of the weakest squads to ever make the finals (2007 and 2018 Cavs), or faced behemoths like the 2017 and 2018 Warriors.
 

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It means that he went to the finals for almost half of his career and faced dynasties in the process. Bron spent the first half of his career elevating a team that would be in the lottery without him and the second half of his career with a spot in the finals every season (partially because of an inferior conference-- though other greats, like MJ, played in an inferior league). The result is 4 rings in 19 seasons.. a similar win percentage as Kareem, Timmy, and Kobe. All of whom never spent 8 seasons with a supporting cast like the 2003-2010 Cavs, lost teammates in the finals due to injury like the 2015 Cavs, dragged some of the weakest squads to ever make the finals (2007 and 2018 Cavs), or faced behemoths like the 2017 and 2018 Warriors.
Helps when you play in the JV conference, get to the finals over and over and get smacked over and over
 
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