COUNTDOWN to the REMOVAL of the Worst GM in the NBA
- Thread starter FAH1223
- Start date
duckbutta
eienaar van mans
off the top of my head I think if you told T Wolves, Blazers,76ers, Nets and Suns fans "for 13 years you not going to win 50 games and you not going to the conference finals but you will make the playoffs 3 or 4 times and go to the 2nd round" I think they are somewhere between
and 
Now on the flipside of that...what would you do if I told you..."Okay your GM just traded a guy that you took in the previous year as a top 10 pick...for a protected top 10 pick...the right to swap first round picks...a 2nd round pick...and two international players...and all of this led to you signing Rajon Rondo and Marco Bellinelli...and you did not have to do any of this...you could have used something like the stretch provision to get rid of Stauskas and all you got to do is spread his already low salary over multiple years"
You want Grunfield or you want a guy who just pissed away probably two years worth of draft picks because he was to dumb to know there are specialized rules in the CBA to allow a team to cut a player they don't want anymore...?
duckbutta
eienaar van mans
Nobody will ever be as bad as David Kahn
1) Drafted Ricky Rubio Over Steph Curry with the fifth pick
2) Then with the next next pick, he chose Johnny Flynn
3) Chose Wesley Johnson fourth overall in 2010
4) Chose Wesley Johnson over Demarcus cousins who was drafted right after Johnson.
When it comes to current GM's it has to be Sam Hinke. He has four centers or power forwards, and doesn't know what to do with them.
1)Okafor
2)Noel
3) Embiid
4)Saric
Here is the deal with Hinkie...if Okafor Embiid and Noel pan out...then he will be able to trade anyone of those dudes for virtually anyone ...
Those 3 guys panning out is the equivalent to trading one of them for Westbrook or Kyrie or Paul George...pretty much any player not named Kawhi, AD, Jimmy Butler, or maybe KD...and 3 of these 4 names are on this list just because their front office consider these guys to be the face of the franchise so they not trading them for more than just basketball reasons...
it's not just about the titles. Who is Grunfeld's signature signing, signature trade..?
Gilbert Arenas in 2003 when he was stolen away from the Warriors for 6 years $66 million. The NBA had to create the Arenas rule so teams could have more rights over 2nd round picks. Word to @Blackthoughts
Signature trade. Kwame Brown for Caron Butler in 2005.
These are a decade plus old now.
off the top of my head I think if you told T Wolves, Blazers,76ers, Nets and Suns fans "for 13 years you not going to win 50 games and you not going to the conference finals but you will make the playoffs 3 or 4 times and go to the 2nd round" I think they are somewhere between
Now on the flipside of that...what would you do if I told you..."Okay your GM just traded a guy that you took in the previous year as a top 10 pick...for a protected top 10 pick...the right to swap first round picks...a 2nd round pick...and two international players...and all of this led to you signing Rajon Rondo and Marco Bellinelli...and you did not have to do any of this...you could have used something like the stretch provision to get rid of Stauskas and all you got to do is spread his already low salary over multiple years"
You want Grunfield or you want a guy who just pissed away probably two years worth of draft picks because he was to dumb to know there are specialized rules in the CBA to allow a team to cut a player they don't want anymore...?
Both are bad but the Kings will actually make the change
Grunfeld has pissed away picks. 2009 we had the #5 pick and he traded it for Foye and Mike Miller. 2011 he has two first rounders and drafts the two busts while everyone else found a guy who can play.
He also just burned our 2016 pick on Markieff and now the Suns will get the pick because the Wizards aren't making the playoffs and won't be bad enough to be in the top 9.
Unless they jump in the top 3.
His salary cap management was also terrible for years. Why would you give Jamison and Arenas $160 million in 2008? Esp when Arenas was in the midst of multiple knee surgeries?
And the contracts to marginal players
And the Wizards having the 3rd worst record in basketball since 2003
Ok so why won't anyone do a favor for Grunfield then?
U forgot donating 39million to his retirement fund tooMitch Kupchak.
Traded 4 draft picks for a 40 year old Steve Nash who was a FA.
duckbutta
eienaar van mans
On that count...you are right. Even if you never could have forseen Gilbert GunsintheArenas losing his damn mind...he was in the midst of knee trouble when he signed that deal
Mitch Kupchak.
Traded 4 draft picks for a 40 year old Steve Nash who was a FA.
He also traded Lamar Odom(who went on to do nothing) and Pau Gasol for Chris Paul.
He also traded Bynum(who went on to never even play) and a single first rounder for Dwight Howard.
It's not Mitch's fault that the league fukked up his plan of making a team centered around CP3/Dwight/Kobe and he had to be drastic with the Nash move. What he was giving up for two players considered superstars was amazing.
the fact grunfeld and Wittman still have jobs shows me that Ted leonis doesn't give a fukk bout the organization.. nikka just wants to own a team to say he owns one
He was slow to fire McPhee with the Caps (he was GM for 17 years).
But now look at the Caps since then. They might actually win the Cup
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
Drink wolf cola
2 all stars drafted his entire history in the league as a general manager. 0 50 win seasons, no trips to the conference finals 
. Nobody compares except David khan.
. Nobody compares except David khan.
2 all stars drafted his entire history in the league as a general manager. 0 50 win seasons, no trips to the conference finals
And yet he's in his 14th season in DC.