COUNTDOWN to the REMOVAL of the Worst GM in the NBA
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For real?! 
Vlade doesn't even know the CBA or proper protocols for trades.Vlade got overridden by a meddling owner. We've seen those situations play out
Donny Nelson wanted Giannis, but Cuban told him no
Sonny Corinthos
Superstar
Vlade got 2 top 10 draft picks in solid draft I hope he don't fukk this up 
Riley built the heat from the ground up
STAN JONES
Fire John Harbaugh
It has to be Vlade/the owner
i read about the trade for the pick swap and they gave the 6ers Nik Stauskas,Jason Thompson,2 pick swaps,and a 1st for the rights to a eruo player
Kings could have the 3rd pick in the draft if they didnt make that stupid trade
Sixers also have the Kings 2019 pick unprotected
Ernie is terrible but nowhere near as bad as whoever is running the Kings
im pretty sure theyre gonna draft a euro and some college senior with a low ceiling with their 2 top 10 picks this year
i read about the trade for the pick swap and they gave the 6ers Nik Stauskas,Jason Thompson,2 pick swaps,and a 1st for the rights to a eruo player
Kings could have the 3rd pick in the draft if they didnt make that stupid trade
Sixers also have the Kings 2019 pick unprotected
Ernie is terrible but nowhere near as bad as whoever is running the Kings
im pretty sure theyre gonna draft a euro and some college senior with a low ceiling with their 2 top 10 picks this year
Rigby.
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Whoever does the grunt work for Gilbert going forward
ALonelyDad
Veteran
Rob Pelinka and Magic ready to take the crown
2011 R1 pick (#6) -- player out of the league in 2 years
2011 R1 pick (#18) -- player out of the league in 2 years
2011 high R2 pick -- player waived
2012 R1 pick -- Brad Beal
2012 high R2 pick -- pick Tomas Satoransky who stays 4 years in Europe then is below average (meanwhile, Draymond Green, Jae Crowder, Khris Middleton, Will Barton all went elsewhere)
2012 R2 pick (#49) -- thrown in as part of Okariza trade (meanwhile Kyle O'Quinn becomes very solid rotation NBA Center)
2013 R1 pick -- Otto Porter
2013 high R2 pick -- player out of league in 2 years
2014 R1 pick -- traded for 1-year player rental (Gortat, who re-signed for 5 years $60M)
2014 R2 pick -- sold for cash (Jordan Clarkson)
2015 R 1 pick -- Kelly Oubre
2015 R2 pick -- given away in trade for player with team for 1 year (Miller: this is from memory)
2016 R1 pick -- traded for below average-average PF (Markeef Morris)
2016 R2 pick -- traded to move up in 2015 R1 to get Oubre
2017 R1 pick -- traded for zip (dumping Nicholson contract, getting a 30 game rental in Bogdanovic, and a bust in McCullogh)
2017 R2 pick -- traded for Tim Frazier
2011 R1 pick (#18) -- player out of the league in 2 years
2011 high R2 pick -- player waived
2012 R1 pick -- Brad Beal
2012 high R2 pick -- pick Tomas Satoransky who stays 4 years in Europe then is below average (meanwhile, Draymond Green, Jae Crowder, Khris Middleton, Will Barton all went elsewhere)
2012 R2 pick (#49) -- thrown in as part of Okariza trade (meanwhile Kyle O'Quinn becomes very solid rotation NBA Center)
2013 R1 pick -- Otto Porter
2013 high R2 pick -- player out of league in 2 years
2014 R1 pick -- traded for 1-year player rental (Gortat, who re-signed for 5 years $60M)
2014 R2 pick -- sold for cash (Jordan Clarkson)
2015 R 1 pick -- Kelly Oubre
2015 R2 pick -- given away in trade for player with team for 1 year (Miller: this is from memory)
2016 R1 pick -- traded for below average-average PF (Markeef Morris)
2016 R2 pick -- traded to move up in 2015 R1 to get Oubre
2017 R1 pick -- traded for zip (dumping Nicholson contract, getting a 30 game rental in Bogdanovic, and a bust in McCullogh)
2017 R2 pick -- traded for Tim Frazier
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Heavy_Handz
Superstar
You didn't even go back far enough LOL
How about trading #5 overall pick for Mile Miller/Randy Foye and passing on Steph Curry...
drafted Oleskiy Pecherov!!!!! In 1st round smh Etc etc etc...
the worst drafter in the NBA
No bench, no backup now means no Wall for Wizards
FILE - In this Jan. 10, 2018, file photo, Washington Wizards guard John Wall (2) pauses on the court during the second half of an NBA basketball game against the Utah Jazz in Washington. Wall will have arthroscopic surgery on his left knee on Wednesday and could miss much of the rest of the regular season, the Wizards announced Tuesday, Jan. 30, 2018. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon, File)
Thom Loverro - - Tuesday, January 30, 2018
ANALYSIS/OPINION:
So when did John Wall’s knee problems take a wrong turn? Was it when he banged knees in a game against Dallas early in the season? Was it maybe after he came back too soon from a knee treatment in December? Was it the 201 minutes he played in five straight games a month later?
Or was it last year, when, coming off double knee surgery, John Wall played the fifth most minutes in the NBA?
If they someday make a film about the John Wall Wizards, they may call it “I, Ernie.” Like Tonya Harding, the Wizards general manager didn’t swing a baton to damage Wall’s knees. But Ernie Grunfeld is certainly a co-conspirator.
Wall was scheduled to undergo yet another knee procedure on his left knee Tuesday and could miss up to two months, the Washington Post reported. He had an MRI on the knee Monday and returned to Cleveland for the procedure to be done by orthopedic surgeon Richard D. Parker, who did two knee surgeries on Wall in May 2016 — a little more than a year before Grunfeld would give Wall a $207 million contract extension.
You remember the recovery from those double knee surgeries in 2016, don’t you? The plan was to bring Wall along slowly, limit his minutes — a plan that made sense, except Grunfeld, in building the roster, had given new coach Scott Brooks no real options to be prudent about Wall’s minutes.
“The thing about John, he’s been progressing very well since we started training camp,” Brooks told reporters early in the season, when the plan was to limit Wall’s minutes and not play him in back-to-back games. “We’re going to see how he feels.”
That plan went out the window when the Wizards started the season 3-9 and were on the brink of being buried for the year. Brooks had no bench to turn to to give Wall the time he needed for his recovering knees, and by the time the season had ended, John Wall, with double-knee surgery still visible in the rear view mirror, had played 2,836 minutes — fifth in the NBA, more than Russell Westbrook or LeBron James.
That’s a formula for a return trip to Dr. Parker and the Cleveland Clinic.
It’s been more of the same this year — no real options to spell Wall and buy time while the team competes.
Grunfeld’s poor roster construction, hamstrung by his own debilitating contracts, have forced the Wizards to put pressure on Wall’s surgically-repaired knees.
Now, after expectations of the Wizards taking a step this season to perhaps finally get past the second round of the NBA playoffs, such goals seem foolish if Wall misses up to two months of the season. This Wizards team has struggled and looked uninspired with Wall on the court so far this year. The prospects of moving forward without him — and without answers provided by Grunfeld to take his place — are bleak.
In other words, typical Wizards business.
It remains one of the great mysteries of Washington sports that Grunfeld, in his 14th season as the team’s general manager, has remained in charge. He presided over the near-destruction of this franchise in the Gilbert Arenas era, yet gets credit for cleaning up his own messes — the arsonist fireman, setting the fires and putting them out. The clean ups, though, are limited.
He got credit for resigning the big three — Wall, Beal and Porter — yet what else were the Wizards going to do with the money except sign their own players? Grunfeld was unable to attract any free agent of note to Washington. Forget about Kevin Durant ignoring the organization — the key free agent defeat was Al Horford, who spurned the Wizards in favor of the Boston Celtics. You take Horford off the Celtics and put him on the Wizards roster, it is a conference game changer. Grunfeld, though, was unable to close the deal.
This franchise has still never made it past the second round of the playoffs in nearly 40 years, or won more than 50 games in a season during that time. And now, with Wall’s future uncertain, the prospect of getting to the next level — past the seventh game of last year’s Eastern Conference semifinals loss to the Boston Celtics — seem dim.
If and when Wall returns, what will have changed? How will Scott Brooks manage his damaged star’s minutes going forward?
Will “I, Ernie” ever end?
FILE - In this Jan. 10, 2018, file photo, Washington Wizards guard John Wall (2) pauses on the court during the second half of an NBA basketball game against the Utah Jazz in Washington. Wall will have arthroscopic surgery on his left knee on Wednesday and could miss much of the rest of the regular season, the Wizards announced Tuesday, Jan. 30, 2018. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon, File)
Thom Loverro - - Tuesday, January 30, 2018
ANALYSIS/OPINION:
So when did John Wall’s knee problems take a wrong turn? Was it when he banged knees in a game against Dallas early in the season? Was it maybe after he came back too soon from a knee treatment in December? Was it the 201 minutes he played in five straight games a month later?
Or was it last year, when, coming off double knee surgery, John Wall played the fifth most minutes in the NBA?
If they someday make a film about the John Wall Wizards, they may call it “I, Ernie.” Like Tonya Harding, the Wizards general manager didn’t swing a baton to damage Wall’s knees. But Ernie Grunfeld is certainly a co-conspirator.
Wall was scheduled to undergo yet another knee procedure on his left knee Tuesday and could miss up to two months, the Washington Post reported. He had an MRI on the knee Monday and returned to Cleveland for the procedure to be done by orthopedic surgeon Richard D. Parker, who did two knee surgeries on Wall in May 2016 — a little more than a year before Grunfeld would give Wall a $207 million contract extension.
You remember the recovery from those double knee surgeries in 2016, don’t you? The plan was to bring Wall along slowly, limit his minutes — a plan that made sense, except Grunfeld, in building the roster, had given new coach Scott Brooks no real options to be prudent about Wall’s minutes.
“The thing about John, he’s been progressing very well since we started training camp,” Brooks told reporters early in the season, when the plan was to limit Wall’s minutes and not play him in back-to-back games. “We’re going to see how he feels.”
That plan went out the window when the Wizards started the season 3-9 and were on the brink of being buried for the year. Brooks had no bench to turn to to give Wall the time he needed for his recovering knees, and by the time the season had ended, John Wall, with double-knee surgery still visible in the rear view mirror, had played 2,836 minutes — fifth in the NBA, more than Russell Westbrook or LeBron James.
That’s a formula for a return trip to Dr. Parker and the Cleveland Clinic.
It’s been more of the same this year — no real options to spell Wall and buy time while the team competes.
Grunfeld’s poor roster construction, hamstrung by his own debilitating contracts, have forced the Wizards to put pressure on Wall’s surgically-repaired knees.
Now, after expectations of the Wizards taking a step this season to perhaps finally get past the second round of the NBA playoffs, such goals seem foolish if Wall misses up to two months of the season. This Wizards team has struggled and looked uninspired with Wall on the court so far this year. The prospects of moving forward without him — and without answers provided by Grunfeld to take his place — are bleak.
In other words, typical Wizards business.
It remains one of the great mysteries of Washington sports that Grunfeld, in his 14th season as the team’s general manager, has remained in charge. He presided over the near-destruction of this franchise in the Gilbert Arenas era, yet gets credit for cleaning up his own messes — the arsonist fireman, setting the fires and putting them out. The clean ups, though, are limited.
He got credit for resigning the big three — Wall, Beal and Porter — yet what else were the Wizards going to do with the money except sign their own players? Grunfeld was unable to attract any free agent of note to Washington. Forget about Kevin Durant ignoring the organization — the key free agent defeat was Al Horford, who spurned the Wizards in favor of the Boston Celtics. You take Horford off the Celtics and put him on the Wizards roster, it is a conference game changer. Grunfeld, though, was unable to close the deal.
This franchise has still never made it past the second round of the playoffs in nearly 40 years, or won more than 50 games in a season during that time. And now, with Wall’s future uncertain, the prospect of getting to the next level — past the seventh game of last year’s Eastern Conference semifinals loss to the Boston Celtics — seem dim.
If and when Wall returns, what will have changed? How will Scott Brooks manage his damaged star’s minutes going forward?
Will “I, Ernie” ever end?