COURT DOCS & PROOF: T.I. Did Not Snitch to Get a Reduced Sentence in His 2007 Gun Case

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Conviction rates are all that matter. Laws and jail sentences aren't created equal, Some people do more time for attempt murder than people who actually commit murders.

Also this country loves guns and dogs, you can't harm dogs and expect not to get punished. You get harsher penalties for hurtunga dog, than an actual human.

T.I. was a big fish, for him to be able to snitch, he'd have to give up a much bigger fish. What big fish fried?
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And didn't they say Gizzle only had handguns? :wow:

see i post facts. yall post rumors:sas1:

i read bg paperwork too. first off he was in a different state and got a harsh judge who hated rappers (At his sentencing she asked him "Are you a rapper?":comeon:. TI had possession charges only. BG got hit with that + plus drug charges + witness tampering (tried to make his man take tha charge) + BG was on papers when it happened

whole diff situation :camby:
 
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nikka a 7 time felon and got caught with all kind of Call of Duty artillery and only did a year? Get the fukk outta here.

The Dunn Dunn man said it best

"Let me tell you something... Mike Vick did time for dogfighting. Never did time before in his life and he went to jail behind some dogs. Tip got caught with all kind of guns. Convicted felon...Did a year got out and got caught again a second time for drugs and went back and did only a year again? You do the math...You can't buy yaself out the Fed's. There's billionaires in the Fed's... Colombians and all kind of people...only way you gettin out is if you talk. It's very simple man. Doesn't take a rocket science to figure shyt out" - Shawty Lo

Again I speak facts, you speak with emotion. :sas1:

Mike Vick did ZERO time for dogfighting, he actually did time for interstate commerce for moving dogs over state lines.. :sas2:

You dont even know what the charges are, but speaking on the situation. Also, I dont beleive the Nation and White People in general were nearly as shocked by TIP buying guns, compared to what Vick was accused of. If you wanna make comparisons :snoop:


the plea agreement references only one felony - and ur emotion doesnt really dispute anything I have posted.:jbhmm:

What person are you naming that was put in jail because of statements by TI? That person has never spoken up and you would think he would be DYING to expose TI. :martin:

Further, what document can you post that disputes anything posted in OP? Post receipts or nah? :ohhh:
 

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Bull... F$cking... Sh!t

1.Brag about being a 7 time Felon.
2. Get caught with making multiple "straw purchases" through your bodyguard for legal guns because his record is clean.
3. Get caught with silencers banned and regulated since 1934.
4. Get caught with fully automatic guns banned and regulated since 1934.
5. Drive to pick these guns up with a half pound of Kush and 2 loaded hand guns.

Really... For the Millionth time, what in the fukk would ever be in the FEDS interest to just give this nikka a year in jail? They're fans? Yeeeeaaaaa OK.




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what's today's mathematics?
shyt ain't addin up
get knocked with ten machine guns - only get 12 months
oooohweee don't talk to me
you talk to him - you talkin to them
I got the best lawyers money can buy
they say they would have got me ten or maybe nine
I said "how do you explain how homie free?"
they said "you keep your mouth shut or you eatin the cheese"


quote rap lines to dispute documented proof brehs :mjlol:
 

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see i post facts. yall post rumors:sas1:

i read bg paperwork too. first off he was in a different state and got a harsh judge who hated rappers (At his sentencing she asked him "Are you a rapper?":comeon:. TI had possession charges only. BG got hit with that + plus drug charges + witness tampering (tried to make his man take tha charge) + BG was on papers when it happened

whole diff situation :camby:


Wasn't he already a multiple time felon on top of that...yea fam did it to himself whether nikkas like it or not...
 

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see i post facts. yall post rumors:sas1:

i read bg paperwork too. first off he was in a different state and got a harsh judge who hated rappers (At his sentencing she asked him "Are you a rapper?":comeon:. TI had possession charges only. BG got hit with that + plus drug charges + witness tampering (tried to make his man take tha charge) + BG was on papers when it happened

whole diff situation :camby:
BG didn't get hit with drug charges breh :manny:

BG Court Docs said:
Dorsey pled guilty to two counts of being a felon in possession of a firearm and one count of participating in a conspiracy to obstruct justice on December 7, 2011, without the benefit of a plea agreement

TI Court Docs said:
possession of unregistered machine guns and silencers, unlawful possession of machine guns, and possession of firearms by a convicted felon. Today’s plea includes his admission that he also illegally possessed eight firearms found in his vehicle and home.

I don't care about all this snitching stuff, but you made it sound like TIP had a simple charge. But you are right about BG getting what he got because of being in Louisiana and that judge. I remember looking like :huhldup:reading some of what they were saying.
 
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i mean yeah i dont think that many people really thought he was a snitch. It sure was an entertaining thought tho :yeshrug: stan wars in 08 and shawty lo/tip beef were some good times for jokes on the web
 

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Bro i been arressted twice in the past 2 years cause of snitches. Cops dont even put that shyt in the pperwork anymore. My lawyer said the jusges let them hide it unless its 100 necessary. He says its been happening for a while and he cant do nothing about it.

Neither of my discoverys say who snitched. "A concerned citizen" or they bullshyt and say they witnessed simething that never happened. My discovery had them following me multiple county lines cause i didnt use a blinker in the town i live in. Na.

Day i believe police paperwork...

exactly.

Say you "hip hop" and "fukk the police/no snitching" then believe police paperwork, B-R-E-H-S
 

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what's today's mathematics?
shyt ain't addin up
get knocked with ten machine guns - only get 12 months
oooohweee don't talk to me
you talk to him - you talkin to them
I got the best lawyers money can buy
they say they would have got me ten or maybe nine
I said "how do you explain how homie free?"
they said "you keep your mouth shut or you eatin the cheese"

They say? Them Lawyers are in NY where TIP would have been jailed easily and received a harsher sentence.
 
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Clifford snitched.
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Not on here to :cape: for TI. Just an ATL resident, and rapper, and coli breh just like yall. My own curiosity into all the snitching allegations, are what led me to investigate- and here's what I found: :whoo:

  • For anybody interested there is a lot of documents and READING involved here- but anyone who takes the time will see that TIP got snitched on, down to the details in his bedroom- and he basically cashed in all the "Chips" he had collected from good deeds and important people who REQUESTED a lighter sentence (like what Beanz asked JayZ to do) :sas1:

Everyone knows the general story: TI had a buddy (Alfamega)


who was his general weed carrier/upcoming rapper & who TI would send sometimes to buy TIP guns. On one of those occasions, Alfamega went to cop guns in a parking lot but this time it was from an undercover ATF agent. Alfamega told on TIP, and he got hit with charges basically for possessing several guns, he was not allowed to own as a felon. :manny:

Here is where the snitching rumors came in: After a lengthy court proceeding, TI changed his plea to guilty and was sentenced to 1 year in Prison, suspended sentence, 1 year befoe his sentence to do charity/community work and 3 years of Supervised release.


1) The most important thing to know (especially my NY brehs)- There was no MANDATORY MINIMUM Sentence that is attached to his charges.:jbhmm:

Minimum Sentencing:

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2) HE also had like 100 things (detailed below) he agreed to do in order to shorten his sentence

3) He had EVERY person of influence/power in Metro ATL & From the Entertainment Industry (from movies execs, preachers, movie stars,NAACP) vouch for him that he had turned his life around and that he had committed volunteer time to all of their documented organizations

4) He used the shooting of his friend Philant in Cincinnati as his defense to NEEDING GUNS as part of his plea

It was stated that if he failed to do any of these things (PSA, Community Service, rand om searches, etc) that his sentence would INSTANTLY go to MIN: 57 mos MAX: 97 months

Section C1 of the plea agreement (posted below the video) shows he literally agreed to promote respect for law and law enforcement (the infamous crimestopper ad)


but it also shows the court GENUINELY thought it could use TIP for good, instead of just throw the book at eem. Again this aint NY, where every DA & Prosecutor have dreams of being POTUS. Shyt woulda NEVERRRRR happened up there.


Terms for Short Sentence:
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Sentence if HE Would Have Failed to Meet Court Demands:

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4) PLEA AGREEMENT- (What TIP DID ADMIT TO) He basically used the shooting of his friend Philant in Cincinnati as his defense to NEEDING GUNS as part of his plea

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Here is the District Attorney signing off on the idea that TIP would do charity for SEVERAL organizations listed, who wrote letters on his behalf that he was helping the community (among them ATL NAACP, Journee Smollett (underground), Rev, Edwards, Bishop Eddie Long (before the scandal), etc...

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Below are several different People of Influence/Celebs with Charities who vouched for TIP's service :

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:salute: nikkas who think TIP snitched either a. Never been in trouble or b. The type of nikka that won't fight his charges and will just take that shyt
 
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