Cultureshock: Chris Rock's 'Bring the Pain': Tupac squared up to Chris over his‘N*ggas Vs Black’ Bit

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

If we're worried about white thought, actions, and opinions regarding every action we take we may as well just drop dead.

Also, "one of the good ones" existed WAY before Rock's bit in '96. White people just updated that old trope by co opting Rock's schtick. People need to stop acting as if Rock handed them a previously heretofore unknown way to attack us.

 

[Stick Up Kid]

Bigger and Blacker was better lol.

 

[Bushmaster]

Pac was a weirdo. One minute he’s a activist, the next he’s thugging with da Mob. I never understood hoe he got a pass for wearing a leopard draws at a concert, and the leather waist trainer

He was a 24 year old kid. Probably dealing with anxiety and depression from the attempt on his life and his upbringing and using alcohol and drugs to self medicate.. Much of his music was extremely dark and revolved around a theme of an early, violent death.

Dude was probably going through an internal battle. The drive to reform vs self destruction.

 

[King Poetic]

Tupac should have kept his motherfukking mouth shut on Chris Rock, especially when he dropped hit’em up saying my 44 make sure all your kids don’t grow... come on man

And nikkas in here acting like this bit made it safe for white people to make their opinion off of black people because of it...

White before this skit as always few black people in different light...perfect example was by spike lee in do the right when he ask John character why u hate black people but your favorite basketball players are magic Johnson, blah blah and he said “ well u know they are different type of black people””

A lot of Black people hate to take blame for our own actions and wants to feel better by blaming white people

 

[O.Red]

Its a good joke but to act like it doesn't walk the respectability politics line is just disingenuous, hence why Chris Rock supposedly saying he "regrets" the joke, because as black people we can automatically contextualize it but outsiders will/would use it as ammunition. Trevor Noah expresses this sentiment in that video.

Ironically this reasoning is why Dave quit his show

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

omnipresent*

Both actually kinda works, tho

 

[bucks3115]

Chris Rock reflects on his SNL firing, being upstaged by Martin Lawrence in A&E's Cultureshock

Spoiler

I thoroughly enjoyed this documentary. Even if you’re not a stand up nerd like me, you’ll love it. Talks about how Chris Rock was hyped to be the next Eddie Murphy but flopped on SNL. Was upstaged by Martin when he opened for Chris and how he wasn’t embraced by the black community until ‘Bring The Pain”.

Top 5 dead or alive.

42:20 for the TuPawg section.

Rep

 

[Dont@Me]

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[seabreeze80]

Racists took it and ran with it. I remember as a child watching racists on talk-shows like Oprah using his "N vs. black" joke as an excuse to be overtly racist and abuse blacks. It was disgusting. I felt like there was a hint of truth in that joke. Similar to how some whites like to differentiate between white vs. white trash. But to say it on a such a large, public platform, I bet he felt like he sold his soul after that.

 

[@OffHalsted]

The irony in this post. A rapper who had an album with 'nikkaz' on the title chastising a comedian for using it in a bit

You couldn't make it up.

It's safe to say white kids now and then say nikka alot more frequently due to Rappers more than comedians.

What I'm saying is that 2pac was being a hypocrite if he was mad at Chris Rock for using it in the manner he did if he himself uses it frequently. I get of course they were both used in different context but for him to get at Chris for his routine was some bullshyt.

That's like if black parents at the time were mad'Strictly 4 My nikkaz' " came out and ignored the context and called him a c00n for using that term. Let's not act like non-black looked at the album and said 'whoops, this album strictly prohibits us from listening to it as we ain't "nikkaz!" They were dropping nikka too because of 2pac and other Rappers.

They're both artists, he should've approached him from a place of understanding rather than attacking him.

The album was black empowerment & uplifting

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Where's the video op

 

[Elim Garak]

Where's the video op

 

[NigerianDonDada]

good documentary

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

good documentary

Yes, it was.

2018 Chris Rock is not nearly as daring and thought-provoking as 1996 Chris Rock.

 

[Benefited]

Racists took it and ran with it. I remember as a child watching racists on talk-shows like Oprah using his "N vs. black" joke as an excuse to be overtly racist and abuse blacks. It was disgusting. I felt like there was a hint of truth in that joke. Similar to how some whites like to differentiate between white vs. white trash. But to say it on a such a large, public platform, I bet he felt like he sold his soul after that.

This is asking somebody to be foward thinking. He said in the documentary that this was his baby,and it was for black people. To ask him to think ahead that White People would somehow enjoy or gravitate to this special that was not for them,is asking alot. Now that is something Pac should have been able to understand,I'm sure he didn't think people would be inspired to shoot cops to his music,not that he cared. But as a artist I doubt any of them sit there and think of all the things that could be taken out of context,or the chain reaction of harm what they say could cause. Especially in hiphop,Pac probably just thought it was divisive.
Which it is when in serious discussion,which I'm sure Pac had plenty of serious discussions on the topic of "nikkas vs black people",the poor/uneducated vs black elitist etc. But in the context of a joke it shouldn't be taken that serious,which is what Chris's point is.

The problem is not only whites,but you also see some of the black elitist clinging to that joke more than I think Chris meant,you even hear someone in the doc say Chris was speaking for a group of blacks that felt voiceless . Chris himself is saying that wasn't his intention and he wasn't trying to take some sort of social stance.