Cultureshock: Chris Rock's 'Bring the Pain': Tupac squared up to Chris over his‘N*ggas Vs Black’ Bit

[Dr. Acula]

Lol @ pac or any other rapper having an issue with the chris rock skit though. The amount of fukery they say in their lyrics is cool but a lil comedy skit with the n word being used is of limits shyt is so hypocritical to me

People aint going to like this but

 

[ThrobbingHood]

that black people vs nikkas bit has become the go to logical reasoning for c00ns and cacs alike.
I'm glad a real nikka like pac let him know. Never understood how so many black people got behind that bit.
I literally had to knock a white kid out in elementary school and get suspended for 3 days because he tried to use that bit to excuse why i shouldn't be offended when he calls other black people ******s.

The irony in this post. A rapper who had an album with 'nikkaz' on the title chastising a comedian for using it in a bit

You couldn't make it up.

It's safe to say white kids now and then say nikka alot more frequently due to Rappers more than comedians.

 

[Elim Garak]

The irony in this post. A rapper who had an album with 'nikkaz' on the title chastising a comedian for using it in a bit

You couldn't make it up.

It's safe to say white kids now and then say nikka alot more frequently due to Rappers more than comedians.

The album is called strictly for my nikkas lol he obviously did not mean it in a derogatory way. He also had a acronym for it Never. Ignorant. Getting. Goals. Accomplished. which is probably why Pac was mad.

 

[Luke Cage]

The irony in this post. A rapper who had an album with 'nikkaz' on the title chastising a comedian for using it in a bit

You couldn't make it up.

It's safe to say white kids now and then say nikka alot more frequently due to Rappers more than comedians.

No irony whatsoever, i understand taking claim of a word and turning into something postive. Which is what pac does when he says strictly for my nikkas. I love my nikkas etc
Chris Rock is straight up using the word for it's original purpose. "a nikka is a lazy poor black man. you sir, you are black, but he is a lazy good for nothing nikka" cue applause

Where exactly is the irony? Where you confused because he said it without the er?

 

[ThrobbingHood]

The album is called strictly for my nikkas lol he obviously did not mean it in a derogatory way. He also had a acronym for it Never. Ignorant. Getting. Goals. Accomplished. which is probably why Pac was mad.

What I'm saying is that 2pac was being a hypocrite if he was mad at Chris Rock for using it in the manner he did if he himself uses it frequently. I get of course they were both used in different context but for him to get at Chris for his routine was some bullshyt.

That's like if black parents at the time were mad'Strictly 4 My nikkaz' " came out and ignored the context and called him a c00n for using that term. Let's not act like non-black looked at the album and said 'whoops, this album strictly prohibits us from listening to it as we ain't "nikkaz!" They were dropping nikka too because of 2pac and other Rappers.

They're both artists, he should've approached him from a place of understanding rather than attacking him.

 

[ThrobbingHood]

No irony whatsoever, i understand taking claim of a word and turning into something postive. Which is what pac does when he says strictly for my nikkas. I love my nikkas etc
Chris Rock is straight up using the word for it's original purpose. "a nikka is a lazy poor black man. you sir, you are black, but he is a lazy good for nothing nikka" cue applause

Where exactly is the irony? Where you confused because he said it without the er?

I'm saying you were mad at the white kid for repeating a routine. If he was singing 2pac song which definitely would've had the word nikka littered around, would you have had that same energy for him? And would you have blamed 2pac also?

 

[Brolic Scholar]

When I was a kid I laughed and thought that joke was funny. I didn’t think that it was making an argument for racists and c00ns, but now I think the joke was in poor taste.

My family had everything from crackheads to business owners in it, so to me it was just like any family discussion about the people in your family that are fukking up... except no one has those discussions in public for other people to laugh at. Chris Rock had the world laughing AT, not with, our black family so to speak.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

What I'm saying is that 2pac was being a hypocrite if he was mad at Chris Rock for using it in the manner he did if he himself uses it frequently. I get of course they were both used in different context but for him to get at Chris for his routine was some bullshyt.

That's like if black parents at the time were mad'Strictly 4 My nikkaz' " came out and ignored the context and called him a c00n for using that term. Let's not act like non-black looked at the album and said 'whoops, this album strictly prohibits us from listening to it as we ain't "nikkaz!" They were dropping nikka too because of 2pac and other Rappers.

They're both artists, he should've approached him from a place of understanding rather than attacking him.

It's like Pac in '96 became Chris Rock's version of C. Delores Tucker.

But we were all young and wild in those years. I have the benefit now of being able to look back at the confusion of my youth. Sadly, Pac does not have that luxury.

 

[jadillac]

I didnt realize him and his brother weren't close.

Kinda odd/sad to hear him say that at the end

 

[Luke Cage]

I'm saying you were mad at the white kid for repeating a routine. If he was singing 2pac song which definitely would've had the word nikka littered around, would you have had that same energy for him? And would you have blamed 2pac also?

That's not at what you were saying, but i'll humor you regardless. He wasn't performing a bit, he was taking Rock's words to heart. So for him ****** was equivalent to white trash, and an applicable term to describe people of a certain socioeconomic status or behavioral trait.
So him singing a tupac song isn't an fair comparison. It would be more like him referring to his friends as "his nikka's". In that case i would be still upset at him, but for cultural appropriation, instead of bigotry. a lesser offense but still an offense. aka culture vulture
I know the comparison you're trying to make but people can be culture vultures with anything from skin color to fashion, so trying to equate tupac use of the N word to Chris Rock's is still a leap of logic.
/debate.

 

[jadillac]

Chris Rock had the world laughing AT, not with, our black family so to speak.

No he didn't. He had a room of Black ppl, who could relate, laughing at those jokes.

He had no idea he would become a superstar after that special. Plenty of black comedians had "black folks, we got to do better" bits.

They just didnt catch lightning like Chris did

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

"Hide your shyt in books, books are like kryptonite to nikkas"

That skit is hilarious and classic fukk what anybody say

 

[Brolic Scholar]

No he didn't. He had a room of Black ppl, who could relate, laughing at those jokes.

He had no idea he would become a superstar after that special. Plenty of black comedians had "black folks, we got to do better" bits.

They just didnt catch lightning like Chris did

You obviously didn’t watch the documentary.

1. Andrew Dice Clay told him it would be his make or break moment before he recorded the special.
2. The producer gave him an hour when ITV was originally only going to be half an hour.
3. The opening credits had the greatest comedy albums that came before him, so he knew this would be a timeless special and one he’d be remembered for.

So no. It wasn’t “he had no idea”. This was his comeback from failing on SNL.

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

I can believe that. Rock has come out on record saying he regrets performing that bit.

The bit is funny, but you can't tell it when non-black people will hear it and use it to their own ends. You shouldn't have to censor yourself like that, but that's how it is.

 

[The God Poster]

I think it’s good to see how it would be received today. It’s a reflection of how much more sensitive we’ve become over the past 20 years.

In the same way we look back at Eddie Murphy Delirious. The over the top homophobia is cringe to look at now but it was a sign of the times.

Speak for yourself