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WHO ADVANCES TO THE WEST FINALS?


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This too, it’s why those Jimmy lead Heat teams got absolutely stomped in the Finals. Prime AD and LeBron, then Jokic were just too good for Miami in those Finals.


:russell: . Both Bam and Dragic were hurt against the lakers. Y’all don’t remember bc yall don’t really watch or know basketball
 

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Next season?
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All the actual gamechangers a year older


All the youngins still dumb as rocks with marginal talent


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I feel bad for Steph. Similar to Jokic their championship window is being wired shut by organizational malpractice.

What makes the Warriors worse is that they had chances in the draft to make some generational picks. How you bomb on pick 2,7 & 14 in a five year span?
in the last 10 years, name all the good 10-14 picks you can think of.

a total of 40 picks...let's name the exceptional ones

2024 None
2023 Derrick Lively?
2022 Jalen Williams, Jalen Duren
2021 Lot of these dudes aint even in the league
2020 Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassel
2019 Tyler Herro, Cam Johnson, PJ Washington
2018 Shai G-A, Miles Bridges, Michael Porter
2017 Donovan Mitchell, Bam Adebayo
2016 Domantas Sabonis
2015 Devin Booker, Myles Turner


so 9/40...22.5% are all star caliber
16/20...40% are significant contributors or better - Kuminga is a significant contributor the same way Wasshington, Porter are etc. We just dont know how to use him because the system is rigid. even in the year Kuminga and Moody were picked, the only better players are Sengun and Wagner

the odds arent that great. i think yall overestimate how easy it is to draft. It's honestly a dice roll

the James Wiseman pick turned out to be horrific but you have to question the ability of these dudes to develop talent as well then. again...the system is too rigid
 

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Yeah why couldn't jimmy once again force a win carrying the worst roster he's been apart of all decade to a win at age 35? Max Strus is legit better than 99% of this roster. shyt, Gabe Vincent better than these nikkas.

why did he go to there if the roster so trash :skip:

Wait, according to all the nikkas that dikk ride Jimmy...we failed Jimmy all those years and gave him absolutely nothing to work with. :jbhmm:


you see it
the excuses and coping is bout to start raining down. shyt was all good up until now. Now, the Warriors are the Washington Generals :dead:
 
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in the last 10 years, name all the good 10-14 picks you can think of.

a total of 40 picks...let's name the exceptional ones

2024 None
2023 Derrick Lively?
2022 Jalen Williams, Jalen Duren
2021 Lot of these dudes aint even in the league
2020 Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassel
2019 Tyler Herro, Cam Johnson, PJ Washington
2018 Shai G-A, Miles Bridges, Michael Porter
2017 Donovan Mitchell, Bam Adebayo
2016 Domantas Sabonis
2015 Devin Booker, Myles Turner


so 9/40...22.5% are all star caliber
16/20...40% are significant contributors or better - Kuminga is a significant contributor the same way Wasshington, Porter are etc. We just dont know how to use him because the system is rigid. even in the year Kuminga and Moody were picked, the only better players are Sengun and Wagner

the odds arent that great. i think yall overestimate how easy it is to draft. It's honestly a dice roll

the James Wiseman pick turned out to be horrific but you have to question the ability of these dudes to develop talent as well then. again...the system is too rigid
Is the system too rigid or are the players who can't be successful in it ain't shyt?

Which young player who's since left GS, went on to do bigger and better things?

Just look at all the players they've drafted who're either at the end of the bench on other teams, or no longer in the league: Patrick Baldwin, James Wiseman, Nico Mannion, Eric Paschall, Jacob Evans, Damian Jones, Jordan Bell etc.

90% of the role players/journeymen who've gone through GS over the last decade have played career-best hoops, and they've always spoken highly about their time in The Bay. I remember David West once saying that players who start off in GS don't know how easy they have it, because it's a carefree environment with a system that brings out the best version of them.

Just look at Wiggins. He wasted away his talent for years, and no matter the coach or personnel that Minny surrounded him with, he still couldn't figure it out. He goes to GS and the system brings out the best of him, turning him into an impactful player, proving all his doubters wrong (including me). Jimmy lost his joy in Miami, then he goes to GS, where he fit in, seamlessly, as if he'd been playing that brand of hoops all his career.
 

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Is the system too rigid or are the players who can't be successful in it ain't shyt?

Which young player who's left GS, went on to do bigger and better things?

Just look at all the players they've drafted who're either at the end of the bench on other teams, or no longer in the league: Patrick Baldwin, James Wiseman, Nico Mannion, Eric Paschall, Jacob Evans, Damian Jones, Jordan Bell etc.

90% of the role players/journeymen who've gone through GS over the last decade have played career-best hoops, and they've always spoken highly about their time in The Bay. I remember David West once saying that players who start off in GS don't know how easy they have it, because it's a carefree environment with a system that brings out the best version of them.

Just look at Wiggins. He wasted away his talent for years, and no matter the coach or personnel that Minny surrounded him with, he still couldn't figure it out. He goes to GS and the system brings out the best of him, turning him into an impactful player, proving all his doubters wrong (including me). Jimmy lost his joy in Miami, then he goes to GS, where he fit in, seamlessly, as if he'd been playing that brand of hoops all his career.
good points. so why is management so shyt at picking talent then?
i feel like you could say the same about 95% of second rounders and late first round picks
 
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good points. so why is management so shyt at picking talent then?
i feel like you could say the same about 95% of second rounders and late first round picks
Jerry West.

Once he left, nobody else in management/scouting knew how to identify talent, and most importantly keep it. This goes all the way back to Bob Myers wanting to trade Klay for Kevin Love in 2014, and West put a stop to it. And you're not wrong about main rotational talent being far and few between in the draft, which is all the more important if you already have a core that you don't go taking gambles on drafting players that could help and forcing them into those roles.

Leading them to their biggest mistake of all when Myers (and Lacob) wanted Wiseman because they didn't have a big man, and because they were so fixated on that and nothing else, they overlooked all his hangups. They even went against Kerr (who wanted them to draft Haliburton), but they were too high off their own shyt thinking Wiseman was going to be their next centerpiece.
 
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