D!ck Gregory on why we SHOULD KEEP saying N!GGA. And DJANGO was based on a TRUE STORY

[Isaiah Bradley]

you just proved my point.

can you point to the specific instances of Django making fun of slavery?

is it where two men fight to the death for the enjoyment of slave owners?

is it where a black man is ate alive by a pack of dogs?

nah, people just wanna say it's making fun of slavery cause of a few comedic elements within the movie.

Like I already said. show me which comic relief scene followed the gas chamber scene in any Holocaust movie

Having seen Django, none of the comedic scenes (that I can remember) played on the brutality of slavery. Those scenes were actually handled extremely seriously.

Like I already said. I've yet to see a movie depicting the real-life horrific actions done to a group of people, injected with comic relief. That's like having the pianist movie, with comic relief in it

EDIT: Hey how funny, the Klans men can't see clearly because of the eyes in the sheet are not done correctly, while they looking for black folks to terrorize

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Like I already said. show me which comic relief scene followed the gas chamber scene in any Holocaust movie

You're still dodging the fact that you can't even bring up why Django is making fun of slavery.

the fact that the klansmen look like idiots cause they didn't cut the holes in their sheets correctly...and then proceed to get gunned down isn't exactly poking fun at slavery.

what you fail to get, is that it's not supposed to be an accurate depiction of slavery, it's a spaghetti western styled movie based in the 1850's


trying to act like it's a comedy, or that they made slavery look fun, or even made black people suffering funny is just delusional behavior from people who didn't even really watch the movie.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

You're still dodging the fact that you can't even bring up why Django is making fun of slavery.

the fact that the klansmen look like idiots cause they didn't cut the holes in their sheets correctly...and then proceed to get gunned down isn't exactly poking fun at slavery.

what you fail to get, is that it's not supposed to be an accurate depiction of slavery, it's a spaghetti western styled movie based in the 1850's


trying to act like it's a comedy, or that they made slavery look fun, or even made black people suffering funny is just delusional behavior from people who didn't even really watch the movie.

How could I be dodging a point about "making fun of slavery" when I did not try to make such a point. You thought you had the opportunity to regurgitate some BS. But no, I'm glad to disappoint you

Now, since adding comedic relief in a movie that depicts the real ill treatment of a group of people is not a big deal to you, show us that this theme of movie making as being the norm. Put us on to another movie that does the same thing

If this movie used slavery as a back drop, without injecting the real ill treatment of black folks, like inglorious b*stards, I would be defending this movie. But there were no torture of jews in the movie inglorious b*stards, that was followed by comedic relief.

 

[keon]

If you think that Django unchained made Slavery Funny and a Joke... you should kill yourself now... Miss me with that white savior shyt too.

did you feel that way when Dave Chappelle did the sketch about roots and the player haters going back in time to shoot a slave owner?

idk about everybody else, but i've ALWAYS called dave chappelle a c00n for shyt like that..i made threads on sohh about it and nikkas was all like

i felt that the main reason why chappelle show did so well is becuz he made sketches that white people would've love to have done, but couldn't..and i think he realized that & ended the show

 

[Gravity]

idk about everybody else, but i've ALWAYS called dave chappelle a c00n for shyt like that..i made threads on sohh about it and nikkas was all like

i felt that the main reason why chappelle show did so well is becuz he made sketches that white people would've love to have done, but couldn't..and i think he realized that & ended the show

Chappelle admitted that he came to realization that white people were laughing at him and not with him. Posters like the one posting in green will say anything to deflect and defend this movie, it's quite telling. People like him are just so happy at the perceived bones that QT has thrown to black people with Django that they have become protective of him. They'll shield him from any form of criticism by attacking anybody who doesn't praise the movie. Check him out.

 

[ghostwriterx]

Like I already said. show me which comic relief scene followed the gas chamber scene in any Holocaust movie



Like I already said. I've yet to see a movie depicting the real-life horrific actions done to a group of people, injected with comic relief. That's like having the pianist movie, with comic relief in it

Can't think of any off hand, but I'm sure there are several. Do you feel the comedy somehow detracted from the scenes depicting the brutality of slavery?

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Can't think of any off hand, but I'm sure there are several. Do you feel the comedy somehow detracted from the scenes depicting the brutality of slavery?

You sure there are several?

The depiction of the brutality during slavery is not my argument about the film. I look for the consistency in what society chooses to embrace and not embrace because that will influence how we view each other and how we view ourselves.

With the entertainment industry making conscious decisions in how they cast roles in a fictional movie about intergalactic threats, suggest to me they are using some form of template that suggest that the fictional role should be casted for a white actor who is good, versus it being casted to a good actor. A variation of that template is implicitly referenced in other industries during their hiring practices, job promotions, marketing budget allotment etc

If it was a norm that the movie industry referenced non-fictional occurances about the struggles of a people, injected with comedy to make a "fictional" film, then I would be supporting Django because there's a consistency that exist. But when there's a conscious effort by the entertainment elite to ensure that those kind of movie themes are not used in depicting other cultures and races' historical struggle, then that effort communicates a message and conditions the masses negatively, thus I would be against it

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

How could I be dodging a point about "making fun of slavery" when I did not try to make such a point. You thought you had the opportunity to regurgitate some BS. But no, I'm glad to disappoint you

Now, since adding comedic relief in a movie that depicts the real ill treatment of a group of people is not a big deal to you, show us that this theme of movie making as being the norm. Put us on to another movie that does the same thing

If this movie used slavery as a back drop, without injecting the real ill treatment of black folks, like inglorious b*stards, I would be defending this movie. But there were no torture of jews in the movie inglorious b*stards, that was followed by comedic relief.

what are you even arguing?

comedic relief in instances where no ill treatment of slaves are involved....is wrong?

what jokes were cracked or laughs ringing out in audiences when the dogs ripped that man apart?

what jokes were cracked when they had their slaves fight each other to the death?

are you seriously trying to pose that it's wrong to have instances of comedic relief simply because it depicts brutal acts towards slaves in said movie?


did you say this about Pulp Fiction having a rape scene, and there still being parts of comedic relief?


it's like you want to truly believe that Django Unchained was supposed to be a serious movie about slavery from start to finish....and that anything deviating from that is worth criticizing.

your going around making up rules for shyt..with nothing to back them.

 

[Pazzy]

No one is forcing you to stay here breh. You can never log in and I doubt anyone would care. I don't think I've ever heard or read anything by Tariq Nasheed.

you think i give a fukk about internet recognition, breh. the fukk i care about anybody caring if i never log in or not?

what i'm tired of is all you part time fake ass "conscious brothers and sisters" outthere that think because you're ready to stand up on whatever controversy is going on concerning black people that that suddenly changes the fact that you're NO longer ignorant. you still ignorant.

do you think that talking about how d'jango unchained, quentin tarintino, dikk gregory and etc and acting like you have some brainpower to talk about something else other than the typical basketball game, what's on tv, worldstarhiphop and etc for 1 minute of your life suddenly means that you give a fukk and you're "down for the cause" yet you don't even know what the fukk is going on?

and yeah, whether i chose to log in or not, it certainly isn't going to affect you and your 2 cent way of thinking. as somebody said in this thread, folks bytching about this movie because a white guy directed it BUT let a black man do the same thing and folks wouldn't give two shyts. same thing with the n-word too. white guy says it and you guys are ready to snap. black guy says it and he's just being who he is. fukking "part time conscious brothers and sisters."

 

[ghostwriterx]

You sure there are several?

What's your take on Bamboozled? Haven't seen it, but isn't it basically a parody of how the media negatively portrays black folk, was there any humor involved?

What about Don't Be a Menace, Blazing Saddles, Soul Man, Watermelon Man, A Day Without a Mexican etc.?

The depiction of the brutality during slavery is not my argument about the film. I look for the consistency in what society chooses to embrace and not embrace because that will influence how we view each other and how we view ourselves.

With the entertainment industry making conscious decisions in how they cast roles in a fictional movie about intergalactic threats, suggest to me they are using some form of template that suggest that the fictional role should be casted for a white actor who is good, versus it being casted to a good actor. A variation of that template is implicitly referenced in other industries during their hiring practices, job promotions, marketing budget allotment etc

If it was a norm that the movie industry referenced non-fictional occurances about the struggles of a people, injected with comedy to make a "fictional" film, then I would be supporting Django because there's a consistency that exist. But when there's a conscious effort by the entertainment elite to ensure that those kind of movie themes are not used in depicting other cultures and races' historical struggle, then that effort communicates a message and conditions the masses negatively, thus I would be against it

Don't think that's the case as shown above.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

black folks don't need anymore help in conditioning them to view their history as not important and trivial. The half ass jobs by teachers from first grade to high school to "celebrate and educate" during black history is good enough conditioning, especially when it's complimented by the media

I don't think he trivialized slavery at all...in fact arguably the funniest scene in the film pokes fun at the absurdity of the KKK .

Every time there was a serious slave scene it was really jarring or intense and most def NOT funny...again this is something you don't know if you didnt see the film

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Django unchained isn't a "slavery comedy". It's a movie about a slave trying to get reunited with his wife. It has some comedic dialogue at times (ITS A fukkING QUENTIN TARANTINO MOVIE) but it never makes slavery look comedic.

 

[Fredrick Thuglas]

Jeffrey Wright Speaks on His Honest Thoughts on Quentin Tarantino's Django Unchained - YouTube!

Tariq Nasheed said the same thing and people here criticized him for his observation...but this guy and Tariq were spitting some true shyt. The movie was, what it was. Just another action flick with gore. It should not be a staple or something that black people should look at as a theatrical triumph.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Tariq Nasheed said the same thing and people here criticized him for his observation...but this guy and Tariq were spitting some true shyt. The movie was, what it was. Just another action flick with gore. It should not be a staple or something that black people should look at as a theatrical triumph.

and none of us are, i think thats the issue...that cats are thinking because we like the movie that we are somehow saying this is the new Roots or some shyt.

nikkas just took the movie for what it is and it existing in that QT ultra-violent absurd universe and liked it. Some people, spike included are thinking too hard about this.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

what are you even arguing?

comedic relief in instances where no ill treatment of slaves are involved....is wrong?

what jokes were cracked or laughs ringing out in audiences when the dogs ripped that man apart?

what jokes were cracked when they had their slaves fight each other to the death?

are you seriously trying to pose that it's wrong to have instances of comedic relief simply because it depicts brutal acts towards slaves in said movie?


did you say this about Pulp Fiction having a rape scene, and there still being parts of comedic relief?


it's like you want to truly believe that Django Unchained was supposed to be a serious movie about slavery from start to finish....and that anything deviating from that is worth criticizing.

your going around making up rules for shyt..with nothing to back them.

you continue to talk about the scenes in the movie that are later followed with comedic scenes. But yet when you mentioned inglorious b*stards, you can't describe a similar situation. The fact that the movie was not a "serious" movie that depicted the real atrocities done to black folks is one argument

But the more simple argument for you to address is where are the other films that are not "supposed to be a serious movie" that shows the real atrocities done to other cultures?

What's your take on Bamboozled? Haven't seen it, but isn't it basically a parody of how the media negatively portrays black folk, was there any humor involved?

What about Don't Be a Menace, Blazing Saddles, Soul Man, Watermelon Man, A Day Without a Mexican etc.?

Don't think that's the case as shown above.

Can't say I've seen all these movies, but I don't see how these movies take away from my original argument that was specific about the various approaches to depicting the historical ill-treatment towards different cultures. Movies like Bamboozled, Watermelon Man, A Day Without a Mexican are for contemporary commentary, while injecting humor

Don't Be a Menace, like Haunted house is suppose to be some form of "black comedy."

Soul Man, from the description of the movie, a white dude became black inorder to get a scholarship to Harvard. The caption reads, "He didn't give up, he got down" I could only imagine the stereotypical black behavior throughout that movie

I don't think he trivialized slavery at all...in fact arguably the funniest scene in the film pokes fun at the absurdity of the KKK .

Every time there was a serious slave scene it was really jarring or intense and most def NOT funny...again this is something you don't know if you didnt see the film

ok, show me a movie that adds comedic relief in the depiction of the real ill treatment of a group of people? The same director used the back drop of war, not the holocaust use of concentration camps and gas chambers, to inject comedic scenes with actors playing jewish soldiers. That conscious decision by QT does send a message to the masses