Dame Dash Slams Kanye For Being Disloyal

[The Bookie]

Steve Stoute has been getting close to Kanye, lately. He was even at the wedding in Italy. I'm sure this is the real reason behind Dame's outburst.

im sorry.. the people sayin Kanye would of blown up regardless of the roc .. I gotta question ya age.. Through The Wire was Talib Kweli and Mos Def status, and thats exactly how Kanye career would be (not broke, but not where he is now) if it wasnt for the roc... He owes his career to dame/biggs

Kanye financed the recording of the song, the filming and editing of the video, as well as, the promotion by HIMSELF. Never mind being on an independent like Rawkus; for all intents and purposes he was: an unknown, unsigned rapper from Chicago trying to make it in New York.

 

[Rigby.]

Jays snake tendencies spread to Kanye I see

This tbh

Dame helped Kanye, but Jay TAUGHT Kanye. That's why Jay ended up the better entrepreneur than Dame, because he knows more about the game. And soon, Kanye will surpass Hov, because he knows more about the game

 

[Rigby.]

im not gonna disagree with that but I was just sayin that he'd be where mos def/talib kweli (at best) if he wasnt with the roc..

I think he'd be bigger as an artist because he does more than them. It would've been harder to get his idea to the mainstream like ROC allowed him to, but Ye was still a visionary back then, I think it would've took longer but a CD-like debut would've probably arrived regardless

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Mentor tho? Who said that? Ye himself says no ID is his mentor and last I checked, he still working with him and giving him props

Kanye had 90% of college dropout done and was shopping it when the roc was still like "fukk this nikka"

Look at puff. His actual mentor had to fire his ass. It's business. That's why they say family and business don't mix. Cause family will fukk up. Then expect you to still hold them down on some family shyt. Meanwhile business wise it's fukking you up.

nikkas made 30 million off rocawear alone. Another rack of millions off selling the label. And you still out here involved in drugs? Meanwhile ye is 3-4-5 albums later after you simply said "give him a chance" and he's supposed to send you money, visit your kids and visit your family. Why am I even sending money to a nikka who made money off me AND probably made over 50 million

Meanwhile where's the loyalty from them? Why nobody brings that up?

Where's beans money on his books. He made y'all money. Y'all was family. Where's state props money for their kids. They made you money. They was family. Y'all calling bleek and making sure his family is straight?


I ride with those who ride with me. The whole time. I give back to those who gave to me. 10 times over.

But I'm not gonna be taking care of my BOSS'S kids and family cause he gave me a job and then sold drugs. I paid you back when I busted my ass and made you those millions when you gave me 10 cents a record.

It's 2014. It's damn near 10 years later and these dudes still crying about what happened and who's not still taking care of who. 10 fukking years later fam.


How long should ye be paying back this debt? 20 years? 50 years? Life? Everytime a nikka need something?

This is why you can't mix. This is why literary dudes go broke. "Oh remember when you was 15 and I fought that bully. Let me get 10k"

The mentor shyt was a personal example to explain the 'work/family' shyt you tried to use as the original excuse, I did not say Dame Dash was his mentor. He did however do what Jay-z and NO ID didn't do....which is believe him in as his own artist. Not just some ghost producer / producer. He thought he could be a rapper slash producer and be a big name. The other two didnt. So again he doesn't owe him money but he certainly owes him a level of respect he has not shown him in fear of making Jay-z mad.

Kanye West has only had ONE thing to say about Dame Dash since the split up and it was negative. That was it. You guys can spin it anyway you want.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

im sorry.. the people sayin Kanye would of blown up regardless of the roc .. I gotta question ya age.. Through The Wire was Talib Kweli and Mos Def status, and thats exactly how Kanye career would be (not broke, but not where he is now) if it wasnt for the roc... He owes his career to dame/biggs

Pretty much,I love THROUGH THE WIRE. That plus slowjams convinced me to buy the album. But without the roc bringing him in and letting him be down,he'd never had been labeled COOL enough to be accepted and respected how he ultimately was. From the rise of "gangsta rap" till kanye came out,no rapper was fully respected and/or accepted unless they were looked upon as a REAL NIKKA/Street nikka. You could make good music etc,if you were viewed as a fukk boy then you'd never get full props despite your music quality. Kanye's ROC inclusion (and his music making abilities) changed that. Without the roc's stamp,he'd a made a dope album that would of been poorly received amongst men in particular and somewhat looked over and celebrated years later but he'd never had the influence that he has now. Hell the whole game would be different.

 

[Harry B]

Lol, the only reason Biggs put on Kanye was to make money of him.
It wasn't some type of charity. Dude is a grown ass man locked up for commiting crimes and he's expecting his 10s or 100s of former employees to visit him

These fukk nikkas in hiphop love to act like its deeper than business when it suits them.

Kanye knew Biggs for 3-4 years befor the breakup, probably never hung out with him and on.
Imagine the chief execs at LV getting locked up and being mad at Kanye for not visiting.

 

[BronxFleeZ]

he's busy paying off bump j lawyer.

 

[Harry B]

The mentor shyt was a personal example to explain the 'work/family' shyt you tried to use as the original excuse, I did not say Dame Dash was his mentor. He did however do what Jay-z and NO ID didn't do....which is believe him in as his own artist. Not just some ghost producer / producer. He thought he could be a rapper slash producer and be a big name. The other two didnt. So again he doesn't owe him money but he certainly owes him a level of respect he has not shown him in fear of making Jay-z mad.

Kanye West has only had ONE thing to say about Dame Dash since the split up and it was negative. That was it. You guys can spin it anyway you want.

If Jay didn't believe in him why did he put him on BP2? And why wasn't he featured on any of Dames artists songs? Dame was signing everyone in 2002, my guess is that he signed him cause he didn't want Kanye to switch label.

According to people the idea was that Kanye's sound did not fit the roc not that people didn't believe in his music, he sat back 1 year and did a hook, the album after that a verse on a club banger and the following year he finished his album, toured and released it.



People make it seem like he was ignored for years, he signed his artist deal in the first half of 2002. It took nearly 2 years to put out his album due to the fact that he was producing a lot, working on his album, had to grind a lot cause the roc wasn't the correct platform at the time, they had mad artists, mad release dates, movies, Jay and Dame beef etc.

 

[mortuus est]

you guys saying dame belived him , their is a video of dame saying he didnt fuk with kanye like that, he told him you need to make all the beats for state prop and not rap, someone find the video cause dame says it out his mouth like its nothing

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Hey I got an idea. How about we take Kanyes and dame and jays word for it. I mean damn. There's an entire track where ye explains from start to finish how he got on. dame and jay both on the track cosigning every word and repeating back what they said to him




So in his own words. He had his album mostly done. Still couldn't get a deal. He did 7 records on blueprint. Couldn't get a deal. Dame and jay wouldn't sign him.

Then he gets a deal with a label. Dame clearly says cool. Go with them. Just make sure the money right

Ye comes in the studio with cam and guru and dame. Plays one song. All the sudden dame is like yea we should sign him. EVEN IF ITS WACK WE CAN THROW CAM ON EVERY BEAT. Then told him YOU DONT WANT TO CATCH A DUD, SIGN WITH US


so even in signing this nikka. It wasn't any true belief. He just wanted to make sure he had him locked down in case shyt blew up. Again. How does that equal into I owe you some shyt 10 years later??? After you made money off me already??




And another thing. Em blew up cause that weird ass "hi my name is" got white people like who the fukk is that. It's so cool. Black people didn't catch on to em based off that. shyt I'm not even sure today, that black people are the ones driving Ems sales.

And again. In Ems words he never wanted to do that song. Jimmy made him. Made him make it the first single too. Em still hates that song to this day. Or maybe y'all forget he released an EP of most of the same material that was a dud. Then he got that interscope backing.....




Y'all really act like budget, marketing, and shyt has nothing to do with the game.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

The mentor shyt was a personal example to explain the 'work/family' shyt you tried to use as the original excuse, I did not say Dame Dash was his mentor. He did however do what Jay-z and NO ID didn't do....which is believe him in as his own artist. Not just some ghost producer / producer. He thought he could be a rapper slash producer and be a big name. The other two didnt. So again he doesn't owe him money but he certainly owes him a level of respect he has not shown him in fear of making Jay-z mad.

Kanye West has only had ONE thing to say about Dame Dash since the split up and it was negative. That was it. You guys can spin it anyway you want.

But you're wrong tho. See my above post.

dame is on record. Literally on ye record, saying he didn't believe in him. He signed him so ye wouldn't sign somewhere else. Then said if it's wack he'd just put cam on all his beats

That's not belief. This is after hearing half the damn album. But let's not believe people in their own words when it happened. Let's believe what the say a decade later, after being disgruntled, jealous and broke

 

[Animal House]

Say what you want but Ye said it himself it was Dame that had faith in him not Jay and it was Dame giving him the Roc chain in Through the Wire video. Plus Sway asked him during a MTV interview was it wrong to side with Jay and not Dame and the nikka said yeah

 

[Will Ross]

This tbh

Dame helped Kanye, but Jay TAUGHT Kanye. That's why Jay ended up the better entrepreneur than Dame, because he knows more about the game. And soon, Kanye will surpass Hov, because he knows more about the game

Nah dame is the better businessman but jayz has the fame.

 

[DontEemTry]

Nah dame is the better businessman but jayz has the fame.

How's that workin out breh?

Oh I forgot, he been black balled.

 

[fact]

He owes his career to dame/biggs

Im all for loyalty, but this is fukking bullshyt. This is a very broad statement and pretty much completely untrue.
With that broad logic, he owes his entire career No Id.
Work hard your whole life to succeed, and then make sure that you give all the credit for your hard work to a couple of managers at your job after you surpass them and their success, brehs