Dame Dash suggests Jay-Z is trying to erase him from the history of Roc-A-Fella Records.

[RubioTheCruel]

Exactly. I get the beef and his perspective on it is real, but there is money out here to be made and he is still in position to make it. He’s clout chasing off of his trauma and it’s not even new trauma.

Real talk. I mean Dame may have legit beefs with them dudes but my guy it's been 20 years. It's not like you get this time back at the end of your life. Clearly no reconciliation is coming. Utilize this energy differently

 

[Awesome Wells]

Do you know these people? This is detailed I hope this isn’t fan fiction lol

Dame gave me my very first job, while I was in high school, at Roc.

Dude hired a couple of my friends too. Most of us were there for years. Whole time, he was always making sure people had whatever they needed to learn more about the business, but he was also paying for cabs for people to get to work and covered lunch and even dinner for everyone everyday. One of my guys that worked with us was starting school and had a partial scholarship and needed more bread to cover tuition. Dame paid for it. That's how he is. So when I see people who I know he helped out in mad ways turn their back on him, I find it mad foul. He's done a lot for people, but doesn't get the same love back in return.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Real talk. I mean Dame may have legit beefs with them dudes but my guy it's been 20 years. It's not like you get this time back at the end of your life. Clearly no reconciliation is coming. Utilize this energy differently

He's more concerned with what he's seeing from people today, than what happened 20 years ago though.

Which is why he's always saying to them through these interviews to leave him alone. What he said about Stoute is real. Stoute will literally get between two people, to gain favor with the artist to make money off of them. He went on a whole campaign to push Dame out. He did the same with Nas and AZ, and Irv and Mic Geronimo, and Mary and Puff, and mad others. It's what he does. So I can understand why Dame has a problem with dude still doing it today.

 

[Cladyclad]

Dame gave me my very first job, while I was in high school, at Roc.

Dude hired a couple of my friends too. Most of us were there for years. Whole time, he was always making sure people had whatever they needed to learn more about the business, but he was also paying for cabs for people to get to work and covered lunch and even dinner for everyone everyday. One of my guys that worked with us was starting school and had a partial scholarship and needed more bread to cover tuition. Dame paid for it. That's how he is. So when I see people who I know he helped out in mad ways turn their back on him, I find it mad foul. He's done a lot for people, but doesn't get the same love back in return.

who did he help that u know that turned their back on him?

 

[Sir Richard Spirit]

Not true. Jay was going to take the position whether they gave up their portion or not. It was Roc-A-Fella records he would be giving them instead.

Jay got offered that position because during his career, he never cashed any checks from Def Jam, as he felt the money he made ghostwriting, touring, and being 1/3 CEO of the Roc was enough to live off. When he retired years later, and came to Def Jam to finally cash in on this large sum, it would financially cripple the company, so they offered him to be CEO and President of Def Jam, full ownership of Roc-A-Fella Records, while also receiving the masters to all his other albums at the end of his tenure.

Okay, so I guess the first question a lot of people are wondering about is: Why the split with Dame and Biggs?


I knew that was going to be your first question. Like, I'm not in the business to talk about guys I did business with—I want you to print all this—been real tight with, for over 10 years. But since there's so much out there, so much has been said, I will say this one thing: I'ma just ask the people in the world to put themselves in my shoes.

However the situation happened, whether we outgrew the situation or what have you, it was time for me to seek a new deal in the situation. While I was doing that, I was gonna leave Roc-A-Fella Records, and if anybody can imagine building something from nothing, and being the main driving force for that, and then having to leave all your legacy and everything behind, I know that'd be a tough situation for anyone.

While I was seeking out another deal, whether it was with the S. Carter Records or what have you, there was a deal on the table to be the president of Def Jam, continue running Roc-A-Fella, CEO-president of Roc-A-Fella also, and get all my masters back. But since I was the one that wanted to leave, I was like, let me try to figure out some way where everyone can be happy. So I said, let me have Reasonable Doubt.

It's not a money thing. Reasonable Doubt, if you look at it, it sells, whatever it sells in catalog. Maybe a hundred thousand a year.It's very little money, but it meant everything to me because it was my baby. It was my first one. And it was also more of a principle thing: Just give me something, something to walk. Something to hold on to. I don't wanna walk away from Roc-A-Fella RecordsÐif you can imagine thatÐwith nothing...

So I was like, let me get Reasonable Doubt and I'll give up [the rest of] my masters. I'll give up Roc-A-Fella, I'll give up president and CEO of Def Jam Records—everything. Just give me my baby to hold on to so 10 years down the line, I can look back and I got something—I'm not empty-handed. And I was the one being offered everything. I thought it was more than fair... And when that was turned down, I had to make a choice. I'll leave that for the people to say what choice they would've made. That's about it. I don't really wanna talk about Dame or Biggs. I don't have nothing negative to say about them.

Jay Z, "Look At Me Now" (Originally Published August 2005)

www.xxlmag.com

 

[Awesome Wells]

who did he help that u know that turned their back on him?

He's run down the list himself a million times over the years.

But I can throw another one in. Chaka Pilgrim. He hired her, when nobody wanted her there. But he vouched for her and taught her the business, defended her when people wanted her fired. Whole deal. When he reached out to her later to help with the DD172 label, she wouldn't even return his calls. And then she was calling around trying to get a job with Jay. so now she's working with Jay and was talking slick about Dame online over the years. Jay didn't even like her, lol. People are wild.

 

[Cladyclad]

He's run down the list himself a million times over the years.

But I can throw another one in. Chaka Pilgrim. He hired her, when nobody wanted her there. But he vouched for her and taught her the business, defended her when people wanted her fired. Whole deal. When he reached out to her later to help with the DD172 label, she wouldn't even return his calls. And then she was calling around trying to get a job with Jay. so now she's working with Jay and was talking slick about Dame online over the years. People are wild.

Didn’t Dame fire the entire staff and Jay had to reverse that?

Because that would make me not like you anymore lol

 

[DrexlersFade]

Dame got too many things that are actually good stuff business wise to be chatting about Jay and Biggs all the time.

Do these podcast hosts got anything else to talk about? Dame got a lot going on - we don't need to hear more Jay sob stories.

He miss them nikkas they was apart of the glory days they did something very few have done I get it.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Didn’t Dame fire the entire staff and Jay had to reverse that?

Because that would make me not like you anymore lol

Nah, he fired the newbies. And the assistants who had just got there and were working on contract. All the vets and the people who had been there for a minute weren't fired.

 

[Cladyclad]

Nah, he fired the newbies. And the assistants who had just got there and were working on contract. All the vets and the people who had been there for a minute weren't fired.

He fired Jay personal assistant. I might be wrong but Chaka too

 

[Awesome Wells]

He fired Jay personal assistant. I might be wrong but Chaka too

Carline worked for both of them. Jay hired her as his personal assistant after Dame fired her. Chaka was still there until the end. He didn't fire her. She was actually promoted, and brought in on the Kanye stuff once he started pitching the first album.

 

[ajnapoleon]

Carline worked for both of them. Jay hired her as his personal assistant after Dame fired her. Chaka was still there until the end. He didn't fire her. She was actually promoted, and brought in on the Kanye stuff once he started pitching the first album.

So your saying jay was totally wrong for not wanting to deal with dame anymore


And dame did nothing wrong ?

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Not true. Jay was going to take the position whether they gave up their portion or not. It was Roc-A-Fella records he would be giving them instead.

Jay got offered that position because during his career, he never cashed any checks from Def Jam, as he felt the money he made ghostwriting, touring, and being 1/3 CEO of the Roc was enough to live off. When he retired years later, and came to Def Jam to finally cash in on this large sum, it would financially cripple the company, so they offered him to be CEO and President of Def Jam, full ownership of Roc-A-Fella Records, while also receiving the masters to all his other albums at the end of his tenure.

How you gonna say not true when Jay-Z said it himself... I remember the quote well

He told them he would walk away from that position and NOT take it, just give him RD... I believe it was........... Oh we kept the file

Jay Z, "Look At Me Now" (Originally Published August 2005)

www.xxlmag.com

Okay, so I guess the first question a lot of people are wondering about is: Why the split with Dame and Biggs?
I knew that was going to be your first question. Like, I'm not in the business to talk about guys I did business with—I want you to print all this—been real tight with, for over 10 years. But since there's so much out there, so much has been said, I will say this one thing: I'ma just ask the people in the world to put themselves in my shoes. However the situation happened, whether we outgrew the situation or what have you, it was time for me to seek a new deal in the situation. While I was doing that, I was gonna leave Roc-A-Fella Records, and if anybody can imagine building something from nothing, and being the main driving force for that, and then having to leave all your legacy and everything behind, I know that'd be a tough situation for anyone. While I was seeking out another deal, whether it was with the S. Carter Records or what have you, there was a deal on the table to be the president of Def Jam, continue running Roc-A-Fella, CEO-president of Roc-A-Fella also, and get all my masters back. But since I was the one that wanted to leave, I was like, let me try to figure out some way where everyone can be happy. So I said, let me have Reasonable Doubt. It's not a money thing. Reasonable Doubt, if you look at it, it sells, whatever it sells in catalog. Maybe a hundred thousand a year.

It's very little money, but it meant everything to me because it was my baby. It was my first one. And it was also more of a principle thing: Just give me something, something to walk. Something to hold on to. I don't wanna walk away from Roc-A-Fella RecordsÐif you can imagine thatÐwith nothing... So I was like, let me get Reasonable Doubt and I'll give up [the rest of] my masters. I'll give up Roc-A-Fella, I'll give up president and CEO of Def Jam Records—everything. Just give me my baby to hold on to so 10 years down the line, I can look back and I got something—I'm not empty-handed. And I was the one being offered everything. I thought it was more than fair... And when that was turned down, I had to make a choice. I'll leave that for the people to say what choice they would've made. That's about it. I don't really wanna talk about Dame or Biggs. I don't have nothing negative to say about them.





But like I said... One of them actually agreed.. I think it was Biggs... And Dame was like "fukk that, we all put in work to make that album happen." He convinced him not to sell and the rest is history.. I wonder what would have happened if Dame would have just gave that up. I wonder if that's why Biggs was forgiven but Dame never will be

 

[Digital Omen]

Did you go see it? they had some stuff about he beginnings there etc..

damn youre sucking dikk heavy right now lol

That's rich coming from a supposed "man" more obsessed with some reggaeton clown than a 14 year old Puerto Rican girl, FOH

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

That's this nikka entire IG since he got out... nikka a motivational speaker now

https://www.instagram.com/biggsburke/