Dan Dakich thoughts on LeBron resting.

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He's an idiot. Dude went age instead of minutes logged while neglecting that he's started since he was 18.

Dude is just dumb
if you want to do age, look at where Lebron stands in the all-time leaderboards for all of those stats. yes, he's had games with amazing consistent stats, but you can't accomplish that without playing a wild amount of minutes.

plus the playoffs every single year for an additional 2 months.
 

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Maybe it was a decision made by coaching...I'm a Kobe fan and I think Bron earned a right to miss a game or two....especially at his age and he may have back or knee issues....who knows but regardless...
 

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I get this point of view, but it assumes I'm comparing the toppings on the burger to LeBron himself. That's not the comparison.

The comparison is Whataburger not giving me what I asked to the Cleveland Cavaliers not giving any indication until game day, hence the team not providing the product they promised, which is probably the driver of the price I paid for that ticket. I said a while back my only concern is that customers are made whole, if LeBron needs to rest, then he needs to rest. Like you said, he's a human being that's understandable. Just hate to see people in the situation like the one I'm describing where there's nothing they can do but eat the cost of tickets they do not want

Go on any NBA team's site and go thru ticket prices. The games against the best teams with the best players always cost more because they're more attractive tickets. People are paying LeBron ticket money for Kevin Love tickets

The comparison was poor all around. The product promised is a basketball game between the Pacers and Cavs...that's it. I've gone over protective measures that people in said boat can take repeatedly in this thread so I'm not gonna keep repeating myself. Would it have been better for them if he got hurt against TOR? Still woulda been last minute and they still woulda had to eat the cost of the tickets without seeing him with their limited resources. But somehow that is more acceptable than being proactive in trying to avoid injury?

That's on fans. NBA wouldn't do that shyt if people didn't go for it. Regardless of what the price is, all you are guaranteed for that money is a game. Maybe the league should consider the fans with their scheduling and pricing.
 

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You have like at least 10 years on me and have been calling me names on the internet all morning. Even if I am "dumb" or "an idiot" which is objectively false, I wouldn't trade my stupidity for your emotional maturity, ever
I've given explicit reasons as to why you're an idiot.

Your failure to take things explained to you into account is why you're an idiot. I'm not going to provide niceties like everyone else who are saying you're wrong in their own way. I'm calling you an idiot because you're stubbornly wrong
 

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The comparison was poor all around. The product promised is a basketball game between the Pacers and Cavs...that's it. I've gone over protective measures that people in said boat can take repeatedly in this thread so I'm not gonna keep repeating myself. Would it have been better for them if he got hurt against TOR? Still woulda been last minute and they still woulda had to eat the cost of the tickets without seeing him with their limited resources. But somehow that is more acceptable than being proactive in trying to avoid injury?

That's on fans. NBA wouldn't do that shyt if people didn't go for it. Regardless of what the price is, all you are guaranteed for that money is a game. Maybe the league should consider the fans with their scheduling and pricing.
Yeah you've gone over protective measures people can take for themselves, but I do think it would earn the Cavs a lot of goodwill if they proactively took the measures of figuring outwhich games to sit LeBron ahead of time and communicating that
 

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if you want to do age, look at where Lebron stands in the all-time leaderboards for all of those stats. yes, he's had games with amazing consistent stats, but you can't accomplish that without playing a wild amount of minutes.

plus the playoffs every single year for an additional 2 months.
Plus the dumb ass extra playoff games they've added in the first round.

These guys are just dumb, bruh
 

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Man you are really clueless.
Yeah I guess the league still needs to bring in LeBron ticket money revenue even when, as it seems we all agree, it's fairly predictable the games he will not play.

Guess that makes me clueless for thinking that's not cool
 

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Yeah you've gone over protective measures people can take for themselves, but I do think it would earn the Cavs a lot of goodwill if they proactively took the measures of figuring outwhich games to sit LeBron ahead of time and communicating that

So the CLEVELAND Cavs should figure out how to be psychic in order to engender goodwill in INDIANA? :dead:

You also failed to answer my questions regarding injury and you continue to ignore the league's role here.
 

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I've given explicit reasons as to why you're an idiot.

Your failure to take things explained to you into account is why you're an idiot. I'm not going to provide niceties like everyone else who are saying you're wrong in their own way. I'm calling you an idiot because you're stubbornly wrong
Your entire argument with me is based around you thinking I'm taking the position that he's a machine who doesn't need rest. That's not my position. So really, if anyone is being stubborn here, it's you putting words into my mouth. All I want is for fans who pay LeBron ticket money to get to see LeBron. If LeBron is hurt, oh well that's a risk. But if he chooses to sit as a healthy scratch, which is okay, then a fan shouldn't still have to owe the league LeBron ticket money.
 

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So the CLEVELAND Cavs should figure out how to be psychic in order to engender goodwill in INDIANA? :dead:

You also failed to answer my questions regarding injury and you continue to ignore the league's role here.
Haven't we all agreed that people tend to rest on the back end of back to backs or 4 games in 5 nights? It's predictable as fukk, so just make it official to protect fans. Again, not saying should be "required" but would be appreciated just say "hey if you guys buy tickets for these games, there's a risk LeBron won't play even if healthy so buy at your own risk"

And yeah injury is another story altogether. If LeBron gets legit hurt, then fine. Can happen to anyone in any sport. But you're putting your heads in the sand if you don't think the NBA is a star-driven league whose ticket prices are driven by those stars being on the court.

Businesses provide products and that's how they earn their revenue. And if prices go up and down based on teams having certain players or not having certain players, they should come down if certain players CHOOSE not to play. Just like I damn sure ain't paying filet mignon prices when I order it off the menu and get served a NY strip because they're trying to save their best meat for other customers. And yeah that's another food analogy, oh well. Just let me pay for the NY strip and I'll be happy, because you didn't pull the old bait and switch

Bait-and-switch - Wikipedia
 
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:mjlol: So how far in advance are the Cavs supposed to let people know which games Bron will sit. A day after the schedule is released in August:dahell:

Want them to announce all the games at once:dahell:

Plus the dumb ass extra playoff games they've added in the first round.

These guys are just dumb, bruh
Plus the Olympics.
 

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The resting players doesn't bother me too much. My biggest gripe is just from the fans perspective that went to the game. Any cavs game the home team will charge a premium so if he doesn't play not only is it a let down for the fans, but they basically paid extra for no damn reason.
 

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The resting players doesn't bother me too much. My biggest gripe is just from the fans perspective that went to the game. Any cavs game the home team will charge a premium so if he doesn't play not only is it a let down for the fans, but they basically paid extra for no damn reason.
That's all I'm saying breh

Just don't charge the fans LeBron prices for Kevin Love tickets. That's IT. It's not a stupid position to take. The logistics of how the league and the Cavs figure that out is not up to me, I'm just brainstorming talking about giving advance notice. If it's not that, then there's gotta be something. But people do not deserve to pay premiums for something they THINK they're getting, and they don't get it because someone chose not to provide it. That price should be affected, EVEN if the ticket is already bought. Or something. Again, I don't know how to implement, but there should be a protection of some way beyond the fan trying to get out a crystal ball and guess when LeBron will or will not play.

I don't get why advocating for the hard-working people who may have paid a lot of money for memories and experiences that will never come is such a problem. Are fans not people too? Or is LeBron the only human being who deserves empathy in this scenario?
 

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People see the number of games played...the number of minutes played...and factor in the in-game responsibilities he carries on the court

For every team that he has been on he has had to be a KEY facilitator/passer, rebounder, scorer and defensive anchor

Talking about in game minutes that an athlete has to play is also the tip of the iceberg of the commitments that an athlete has...

There is practice, film breakdown and study, various team meetings and organization commitments just to name a few. Then there are wider nba commitments that players have to meet..Training when not in practice....sponsor obligations.

He got his family and home life commitments too.


This Dakich guy have issues with other players in the NBA having rest nights too or just LBJ? what about other sports?
 
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