Dating At 53

[Phitz]

I don't think a man would have a problem with women in the 35-45 range at all
but the 50 is the fall of point for men "the male wall"
those 35-40 yr old men will want younger woman most of the time
but most of the better woman are already locked down at that point
so you are catching divorced women with some type of emotional baggage
why would a quality woman be single at 35

husband died, cheated, she lived in a remote area with very little men

various reasons

finding a quality mate in metropolitan areas is poisonous and difficult, so your question makes sense in that case

 

[Phitz]

53 year old single men don't "eat" anywhere unless you're rich. On average, most younger women aren't looking for someone that old. That dude is exclusively looking for 37-40 year old women lol. Not happening. He can't complete with 37-40 year old men who have their shyt together.

Being 53 and still crying about women wanting a provider is wild too. If you're still single at that age it's probably over for you

this is not true, they eat all the time all ages.

their only problem is finding a long term woman

Sex is easy once you're not , but we're not talking about sex here

Finding a long term mate is hard in this environment for even 30 year olds,and gets harder after that

 

[MaccabeanRebel]

This simply isn't true overall according to every piece of data we have about women's dating preferences and habits. You can point to an outlier example of a few guys but the vast majority of 53 year old men in this country cannot bag a significantly younger woman if they aren't rich; I'm not talking about "works at the Ford plant and has health benefits" stability, I'm talking about RICH. There's this weird idea that age doesn't matter for men, that we're gonna be on top of the mountain forever and can do whatever we want (whereas women must be married before 30). It's not true. If you are 53 you're going to lose every time in a competition with a 35-40 year old man who has as much stability, is younger, and could start a family. Women aren't thinking of 53 year old men as potential partners or fathers to children. And if it's about money they can find someone younger/more attractive with money.

You are right.. but you also have to look at it like this. The average man by mid 30s and above is washed. If you have good genetics and take care of yourself you are an outlier.. even moreso as you age i.e not the norm.

Yes, that 50 year old man will loose out to a prime 35 year old man trying to pull the same women in this market..BUT the majority of these men today is washed anyway (even the 30 year old ones). You can't just be some old dude that's cooked and immediately attract a prime younger women but if you are taking care of buisness and yourself you are eating because you are ahead of the curve..The statistics you brought out probably don't portray that because the overwhelming majority of men are washed anyways.

 

[Piff Perkins]

I blame the redpill YouTubers who tell men to wait at 40 to find their wives

Its a smart way of them getting rid of the male competition lol
So they can have all the young women to themselves

This is exactly it. That entire movement is so divorced from reality and so popular amongst men who are not successful that it's easy to sniff out the bs. Even if we generalize that women in their 20s are looking to have fun/experiences and women in their 30s are looking to settle down....where does a 53 year old man fit in either equation unless he's rich?

If you're single at 53 as a man or women your options are incredibly limited and you might be shyt outta luck. Younger men/women aren't looking your way and assume something is wrong with you. People your age prob feel the same if you haven't at least been married/divorced once by the time you hit 50.

 

[Phitz]

You are right.. but you also have to look at it like this. The average man by mid 30s and above is washed. If you have good genetics and take care of yourself you are an outlier.. even moreso as you age i.e not the norm.

Yes, that 50 year old man will loose out to a prime 35 year old man trying to pull the same women in this market..BUT the majority of these men today is washed anyway (even the 30 year old ones). You can't just be some old dude that's cooked and immediately attract a prime younger women but if you are taking care of buisness and yourself you are eating because you are ahead of the curve..The statistics you brought out probably don't portray that because the overwhelming majority of men are washed anyways.

you're right most people are washed, lets get some perspective, but let's get some perspective the lady in the first pic is way older than the lady in the 2nd pic, about a 20 year difference.

If you're only smashing who you think will eat more? Flip the gender and it's the same thing

I dont think he's getting a 9, 10 for a gf unless he's rich, but he's got a decent shot at avg and even slightly above avg.

 

[jilla82]

This simply isn't true overall according to every piece of data we have about women's dating preferences and habits. You can point to an outlier example of a few guys but the vast majority of 53 year old men in this country cannot bag a significantly younger woman if they aren't rich; I'm not talking about "works at the Ford plant and has health benefits" stability, I'm talking about RICH. There's this weird idea that age doesn't matter for men, that we're gonna be on top of the mountain forever and can do whatever we want (whereas women must be married before 30). It's not true. If you are 53 you're going to lose every time in a competition with a 35-40 year old man who has as much stability, is younger, and could start a family. Women aren't thinking of 53 year old men as potential partners or fathers to children. And if it's about money they can find someone younger/more attractive with money.

that just hasnt been my experience...

women in their 30 are choosing hard

I even saw it with my father and his friends (his long time girlfriend was an attorney that was 15 years younger than him)...
he wasnt "rich" but was a doctor.

the problem with internet convos is people take general information and apply it to specific situations.

a lot of men are just boring know nothings...
they dont interest women.


im 41 and have enough money to pretty much hold a woman down (not an extravagant lifestyle).

I pull 28+ relatively easy
(if you want younger than that just pay em...a few hundred $$$ and a 22 year old will leave her boyfriend to come "hang out" at your place for a few hours...
maybe have dinner or something (if you want that)

with that said...
im well traveled
know food
can hold a decent convo
emotionally mature
great communication skills
tattoo'd nerdy vibe

im also a 6'1 6 figures

I personally dont see how certain black men struggle with black women (the ones with sense)...
they crave a relationship in the worst way.
the problem men have is a lot of them are just dumb and broke...
and dont want to admit it

#GMB

 

[Phitz]

that just hasnt been my experience...

I even saw it with my father and his friends...
he wasnt "rich" but was a doctor.

the problem with internet convos is people take general information and apply it to specific situations.

a lot of men are just boring no nothings...
they dont interest women.


im 41 and have enough money to pretty much hold a woman down (not an extravagant lifestyle).

I pull 28+ relatively easy

with that said...
im well traveled, know food, can hold a decent convo, have great conversational skills etc....

Reminds me of the day I went t to work out with my father, I'm embarrassed to say his cardio is better than mine and he's around 70 now. I do cardio but I could not keep up with him. He also did more weight than I could do on that thrust machine. Before I started he said "you might want to take some off"(he knew I hadn't done that particular task in a while). I took off 70lbs from what he was doing and I struggled and stuck between inspiration and mad at my mom for her genes . But to your point, I was also mad we ran into a coworker of his who is a "pawg" in her 30s kind of flirting. I've seen younger women flirt with him before, but it's not like he goes many places so it's rare that happens, and he's usually with moms. But you right there's alot of nuance and situations that are unique to each person.

 

[Piff Perkins]

that just hasnt been my experience...

I even saw it with my father and his friends...
he wasnt "rich" but was a doctor.

the problem with internet convos is people take general information and apply it to specific situations.

a lot of men are just boring no nothings...
they dont interest women.


im 41 and have enough money to pretty much hold a woman down (not an extravagant lifestyle).

I pull 28+ relatively easy

with that said...
im well traveled, know food, can hold a decent convo, have great conversational skills etc....

You're 41. You're not 53. So you're the guy who ensures 53 year olds aren't going to have success with younger women, in most cases.

In terms of your dad and friends...outliers. This isn't general information either, it's what dating preference studies show all the time. Can older men entertain younger women? Sure. But dating is far less likely. My dad is a doctor as well, I "get" what you're saying since I've gone out with him to bars and shyt. But letting a 50+ man buy you drinks and dating him are entirely different things.

 

[MaccabeanRebel]

Ima go out this weekend and tell shorties I'm way older than I am..Will report back with empirical data and statistics brehs

 

[Babymama Magnet]

Men providing for women is not always a ‘need’ for the woman, but it’s more than often the trade off for dating a man no longer in his prime.





I tell men and women to lock somebody down by late 30s. Because who really wants a 50 year old for who they are? Who is a 50 year old? Set in their ways, planning for retirement, don’t look as good or move as quick as they used to. The only person that appreciates that is the person already with you or a person at a similar stage of life.

Okay, but physically neither would a woman that age (late 30's early 40's) be either which goes back to the question. If she has her and he has his why does she need to be provided for?

 

[Peter Popoff]

At least he’s realistic! Nothing wrong with what he said. But someone 10+ years younger will def want to be provided for

Most 50 year old women are not even 25% as in shape as him. It's rare, he's meeting an Angela Bassett or Nia Long that has time to work out.

 

[null]

brehs with the advanced age calculus

 

[Will Ross]

This simply isn't true overall according to every piece of data we have about women's dating preferences and habits. You can point to an outlier example of a few guys but the vast majority of 53 year old men in this country cannot bag a significantly younger woman if they aren't rich; I'm not talking about "works at the Ford plant and has health benefits" stability, I'm talking about RICH. There's this weird idea that age doesn't matter for men, that we're gonna be on top of the mountain forever and can do whatever we want (whereas women must be married before 30). It's not true. If you are 53 you're going to lose every time in a competition with a 35-40 year old man who has as much stability, is younger, and could start a family. Women aren't thinking of 53 year old men as potential partners or fathers to children. And if it's about money they can find someone younger/more attractive with money.

This ain’t true at all as long as you are not flabby you can get a woman younger. especially women 30+

 

[MaccabeanRebel]

you're right most people are washed, lets get some perspective, but let's get some perspective the lady in the first pic is way older than the lady in the 2nd pic, about a 20 year difference.

If you're only smashing who you think will eat more? Flip the gender and it's the same thing

I dont think he's getting a 9, 10 for a gf unless he's rich, but he's got a decent shot at avg and even slightly above avg.

Not sure what you are asking here breh...is that Nicole Murphy? I'm def smashing that over Larry Holmes lizzo any day. This actually supports my argument if you flip roles. Because lizzo would be a flabby 30 something breh getting overlooked, and the 53 old in shape breh would be pulling all the bishes.

 

[Phitz]

Not sure what you are asking here breh...is that Nicole Murphy? I'm def smashing that over Larry Holmes lizzo any day. This actually supports my argument if you flip roles. Because lizzo would be a flabby 30 something breh getting overlooked, and the 53 old in shape breh would be pulling all the bishes.

Yes I was supporting your arguement that most people are washed in this environment.

My point was sex is easy for an in shape man of any age, and a long term partnership and marriage is harder to find after 30 for everybody, more so women, but it does get harder for men in this environment even if sex is easy. Because everyone is on the self worship wave that they want these avatars of human beings that dont exist.