@DEAD7 idol Rand Paul having surgery in Canada

[Pressure]

@DEAD7 you gotta speak on this. :Melowhat:

 

[DonKnock]

 

[mc_brew]

So this is how it's going to be? After obama destroyed the formerly capitalist health care system in America and put it completely under the control of the government, Rand Paul was forced to find any alternative he could. If grimy slimy greasy slithering Democrats would keep their government hands off of the health care system Rand could have already had surgery years ago. Notice he had to be put on a waiting list. A WAITING LIST! *gasp*

Let's face it, Lord Free Market has shown us the path. Only libertarian free market ideas that put corporations in charge of our lives can show us true freedom. Freedom is when no government can control you. When corporations control you, that's called choice and opportunity!

Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference.

 

[Tribaligenesis]

It's the Libertarian's way, get healthcare at the best rates. He adjudged that his personal responsibility is not enough of an incentive in regards to his health.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

i'm confused, what's the issue here???????????

Canada has free healthcare yes
Rand Paul is NOT a canadian citizen, so that 'free' part don't apply to him.

What is the issue here?
Someone please explain

 

[Tribaligenesis]

i'm confused, what's the issue here???????????

Canada has free healthcare yes
Rand Paul is NOT a canadian citizen, so that 'free' part don't apply to him.

What is the issue here?
Someone please explain

The issue lies in the fact, that he went and made use of healthcare provided in another country, whose healthcare should be 'inferior'. One would assume that the private healthcare in the US wasn't adequate enough for him to be willing to have the operation in the US.

 

[DonKnock]

i'm confused, what's the issue here???????????

Canada has free healthcare yes
Rand Paul is NOT a canadian citizen, so that 'free' part don't apply to him.

What is the issue here?
Someone please explain

Conservatives also insist that Canadian medications are unsafe and that is why we can't have drug imports, which would greatly reduce the cost of prescriptions here.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

The issue lies in the fact, that he went and made use of healthcare provided in another country, whose healthcare should be 'inferior'. One would assume that the private healthcare in the US wasn't adequate enough for him to be willing to have the operation in the US.

there is no need to assume, in fact this may not even be an issue of money, especially since he may not pay for it but the attacker will with the lawsuit.

likely he wil be going to shouldice
For over 70 years, we have been the only licensed hospital in the world dedicated to repairing hernias. More than 98% of our cases are performed with our natural tissue technique...without the use of mesh.
Welcome to Shouldice Hernia Hospital, The Global Leader in Non-Mesh Hernia Repair.

this hospital is perhaps the best place on the planet for him to go, whether socialist or private.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Conservatives also insist that Canadian medications are unsafe and that is why we can't have drug imports, which would greatly reduce the cost of prescriptions here.

Don't judge a person by his/her party. But yes always judge the party, yes no argument there.

correction, SOME conservatives do but not all.

Dr. Rand Paul Creates Faster Path for Treatments with New FDA Legislation
WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senator and physician Rand Paul has introduced S. 3466, the Accelerating New Pharmaceutical Competition Act, to reduce red tape at the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) by fast tracking FDA approval of medicines and devices that have met safety and efficacy standards in other developed nations. Unnecessary bureaucratic delays have kept more EpiPen alternatives off U.S. markets, contributing toward a virtual monopoly over auto-injected epinephrine and further inflating the treatment’s prices.

“Competition is essential to expanding access to a wider variety of affordable options for patients,” said Dr. Paul. “Treatments proven by rigorous testing in other developed countries to be effective and safe shouldn’t have to jump redundant hurdles to get to U.S. markets. Congress can immediately address the massive spikes in prescription drug prices by passing this legislation.”

The Accelerating New Pharmaceutical Competition Act, S. 3466

• Allows sponsors of drugs approved in Europe and other developed countries to be able to show safety and efficacy to the FDA without repeating lengthy and costly clinical trials.

• Requires the FDA to act on these foreign-approved applications within 90 days, or the drug product is presumed to be approved and may come to market.

• Removes the automatic 30-month stay of market approval for generic drug applications that are the subject of ongoing patent litigation. Rather, the bill would give full authority to the court to determine whether to shorten or lengthen such a stay.

• Fast tracks the approval of generic drugs in cases where there is a sole source or limited competition by requiring the FDA to act on those applications within 150 calendar days.

Dr. Rand Paul Creates Faster Path for Treatments with New FDA Legislation | Senator Rand Paul

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

for anyone that didn't notice yet
i just took ownership of this thread

 

[Pressure]

for anyone that didn't notice yet
i just took ownership of this thread

You didn't. You just furher proved that his own political philosophies are at odds with his personal priorities.

Negged.

 

[Pressure]

With regard to the idea of whether you have a right to health care, you have to realize what that implies. It’s not an abstraction. I’m a physician. That means you have a right to come to my house and conscript me. It means you believe in slavery. It means that you’re going to enslave not only me, but the janitor at my hospital, the person who cleans my office, the assistants who work in my office, the nurses.

"Basically, once you imply a belief in a right to someone’s services, do you have a right to plumbing? Do you have a right to water? Do you have right to food? You’re basically saying you believe in slavery. You’re saying you believe in taking and extracting from another person. Our founding documents were very clear about this. You have a right to pursue happiness but there’s no guarantee of physical comfort. There’s no guarantee of concrete items. In order to give something concrete, you have to take it from someone. So there’s an implied threat of force.

"If I’m a physician in your community and you say you have a right to health care, do you have a right to beat down my door with the police, escort me away and force me to take care of you? That’s ultimately what the right to free health care would be. If you believe in a right to health care, you’re believing in basically the use of force to conscript someone to do your bidding."

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

You didn't. You just furher proved that his own political philosophies are at odds with his personal priorities.

Negged.

no I didn't and AS SOON AS I HIT REPLY I KNEW YOU CALL ME JAMES WOULD NEG ME FOR THAT HAHAHAHAHAHHA
So predictable, like I always say, you neg more than you give logical arguments in a debate.

 

[88m3]

fraud runs in the family tree like dead confederate traitors

 

[the cac mamba]

his comparison to slavery is

but i think that point, minus that bullshyt, is valid. you can't say that people have a "right" to something as complicated, and expensive, and involves as many peoples services, as healthcare you can argue that a country as rich as america SHOULD provide healthcare to all, without saying everyone has a 'right' to it. i dont think anyone does

it's different than some shyt like "the right to freedom", which doesn't actually require anything from anyone else, or "the right to free speech". you have the "right" to things that dont require anything from anyone else; the "right" means that no one else can impede on them