Debate: Is Hiphop A Cancer Or Cure?

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What is this impact and influence?

Going out and potraying what is seen in the movie, or having the movie affect how they think. You know what I mean, any form of entertainment is going to have a impact on a person life or influence them.
Shyt that Will Smith movie Pursuit of Happiness influenced my life. I went out and found a job after that movie shyt. Mad gangsters like to quote scarface too thats a example, some actually try to live it :francis:.

Media affects all of our lives.
 

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Going out and potraying what is seen in the movie, or having the movie affect how they think. You know what I mean, any form of entertainment is going to have a impact on a person life or influence them.
Shyt that Will Smith movie Pursuit of Happiness influenced my life. I went out and found a job after that movie shyt. Mad gangsters like to quote scarface too thats a example, some actually try to live it :francis:

Media affects all of our lives.
A movie made you want to get a job :mjlol:

What I was asking is who is out here doing illegal shyt because of a movie or a song?
 

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And if you didnt do those things because of rap why you do you believe another fellow black person did this because of a damn song.

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I like to get high. lean is another way to get high. its been glorified in hip hop so much that it has become a curiosity for me, just to see if it lives up to the hype
 

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A movie made you want to get a job :mjlol:

What I was asking is who is out here doing illegal shyt because of a movie or a song?

Yeah a movie made me get a job, I was depressed at the time :manny:

Breh, do you not understand how media affects our brain? You think that a kid is not going to be affected if I expose him or her to violent movies all the time with cursing and killing. He or She is going to think it is ok to do that shyt.

Same reason why I would never let my kid play Call of duty or GTA V.

I cant say which exact movie a person could have watched to commit a crime because im not with that person all the time and I dont know him. But it is still possible that he or she could have been affected by the media.

Act like Drill music aint no ignorant shyt that has a big impact on Chicago culture. But ok.
 

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I think it's the other way around if anything. Again, you're not looking at the big picture.

Gucci Mane made a song about El Chapo, a real drug trafficking czar.

Rick Ross named dropped Big Meech and Larry Hoover.

Rappers in the 90s constantly idolized Italian Mafia lifestyle, namely Jay Z, Nas and B.I.G.

Hell Nas himself even donned the moniker of Escobar for fukk sake.

50 Cent rapped about actual drug lords in the 80's and 90's in Ghetto Qu'ran.

Rappers themselves are caught in the high pace, live fast and die young mentality of other people who actually are in the criminal life and have fruits of their labor to showcase.

Why the fukk else would Tupac, at age 25 join the Pirus via Suge Knight. C'mon dude try again.
Ummm....thanks for making my point?
 

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Yeah a movie made me get a job, I was depressed at the time :manny:

Breh, do you not understand how media affects our brain? You think that a kid is not going to be affected if I expose him or her to violent movies all the time with cursing and killing. He or She is going to think it is ok to do that shyt.

Same reason why I would never let my kid play Call of duty or GTA V.

I cant say which exact movie a person could have watched to commit a crime because im not with that person all the time and I dont know him. But it is still possible that he or she could have been affected by the media.

Act like Drill music aint no ignorant shyt that has a big impact on Chicago culture. But ok.

@CrimsonTider has no brain :mjlol:
 

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People have been doing hard drugs long before the invention of rap.

Show where people wouldn't be doing drugs if rap didnt exist?

Rappers are rapping about lean because that is the drug of choice in certain hoods. Rappers are following the trend not creating.

Yeah a movie made me get a job, I was depressed at the time :manny:

Breh, do you not understand how media affects our brain? You think that a kid is not going to be affected if I expose him or her to violent movies all the time with cursing and killing. He or She is going to think it is ok to do that shyt.

Same reason why I would never let my kid play Call of duty or GTA V.

I cant say which exact movie a person could have watched to commit a crime because im not with that person all the time and I dont know him. But it is still possible that he or she could have been affected by the media.

Act like Drill music aint no ignorant shyt that has a big impact on Chicago culture. But ok.

No I dont understand how the media affects the brain in the way people are committing crimes because of entertainment.

How does playing a video game change the trajectory of a kids life?

Drill music is a reflection of what was happening in Chicago for decades. Drill music isn't creating violence.

Chicago is a reflection of lack of opportunity, housing discrimination and poverty. If Rap never existed or cease existing today Chicago would still be Chicago.

Y'all can't really be this simple.
 

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People have been doing hard drugs long before the invention of rap.

Show where people wouldn't be doing drugs if rap didnt exist?

Rappers are rapping about lean because that is the drug of choice in certain hoods. Rappers are following the trend not creating.



No I dont understand how the media affects the brain in the way people are committing crimes because of entertainment.

How does playing a video game change the trajectory of a kids life?

Drill music is a reflection of what was happening in Chicago for decades. Drill music isn't creating violence.

Chicago is a reflection of lack of opportunity, housing discrimination and poverty. If Rap never existed or cease existing today Chicago would still be Chicago.

Y'all can't really be this simple.

This is how I know when somebody is extremely simpleminded and don't see the big picture. Like I said earlier, the main affects of hiphop culture is NOT whether or not its making people pick up guns. Its the mental aspect. Black people are in a psychological battle. The black mind has been under attack since we were brought over here



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Learn about your peoples history in this country and you'll understand.
 
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The black psyche/mindset under this system of white supremacy.


Is hiphop helping to steer our minds in the right direction needed to get from under the foot of oppression? Is it promoting in its messages the things needed to combat systemic oppression?

When did it become hip-hops job to "steer our minds in the right direction needed to get from under the foot of oppression"?

That would be asking an awful lot from some 4-minute songs...
 

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Rappers are kind of in a limbo though. You can't dance to conscious rape although Kendrick seems to have figured it out which is why he's popping, but most conscious rap can't be played in the club, and if you want to make a happy club banger like hotline bling you'll be called soft and making music for cacs like Drake.

Glad my country has it's own music and it's all positive traditional music :wow:
 

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People have been doing hard drugs long before the invention of rap.

Show where people wouldn't be doing drugs if rap didnt exist?

Rappers are rapping about lean because that is the drug of choice in certain hoods. Rappers are following the trend not creating.



No I dont understand how the media affects the brain in the way people are committing crimes because of entertainment.

How does playing a video game change the trajectory of a kids life?

Drill music is a reflection of what was happening in Chicago for decades. Drill music isn't creating violence.

Chicago is a reflection of lack of opportunity, housing discrimination and poverty. If Rap never existed or cease existing today Chicago would still be Chicago.

Y'all can't really be this simple.

You dont understand. Drill music is creating more violence because it is adding a spark to whatever is there already.

Dont be this dense bro, look at the bigger picture. Violent music amplifies crime. Music about sipping on lean, creates more kids who want to try it. You are underestimating the power of entertainment as a whole. What about the kids with no parents who look up to these artists as a role model because they have no one else to steer them in the right direction. Celebs are really parents to some of these kids without them knowing.

If you dont think it creates more violence, go ahead and let your kid watch anything violent and play whatever violent game he wants. Then watch their actions after. Entertainment has always put subliminal messages in our minds, its the same way they get us to buy things subconsciously.

Music is a powerful tool and its why the CACs at top want to sieze full control over it when it comes to how its distributed to the masses.

Actually no I didn't.

:russell:

Life influences art, not the other way around. That's my point.

No stop. They go hand in hand, dont ignore it.

Life influences art, and art infleunces life.

Paintings, films, music, photography and even dancing is art. All of these things can be a form of communication to the consumer and it can also affect their emotion or mood in a positive or negative way.

Just think music has impacted black lives since the beginning of time, all the way until now. I would be happy to go through every period of time with you to break it down, but im going to sleep. :smugfavre:
 

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You dont understand. Drill music is creating more violence because it is adding a spark to whatever is there already.

Dont be this dense bro, look at the bigger picture. Violent music amplifies crime. Music about sipping on lean, creates more kids who want to try it. You are underestimating the power of entertainment as a whole. What about the kids with no parents who look up to these artists as a role model because they have no one else to steer them in the right direction. Celebs are really parents to some of these kids without them knowing.

If you dont think it creates more violence, go ahead and let your kid watch anything violent and play whatever violent game he wants. Then watch their actions after. Entertainment has always put subliminal messages in our minds, its the same way they get us to buy things subconsciously.

Music is a powerful tool and its why the CACs at top want to sieze full control over it when it comes to how its distributed to the masses.



No stop. They go hand in hand, dont ignore it.

Life influences art, and art infleunces life.

Paintings, films, music, photography and even dancing is art. All of these things can be a form of communication to the consumer and it can also affect their emotion or mood in a positive or negative way.

Just think music has impacted black lives since the beginning of time, all the way until now. I would be happy to go through every period of time with you to break it down, but im going to sleep. :smugfavre:
violence has been on the decline for decades now

Try again
 
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