Debate: Is Hiphop A Cancer Or Cure?

[BmoreGorilla]

However the negatives outweigh the positives.

I wouldn't say that. It's always a positive when a black man is gainfully employed. Too many of us come from broken homes and went to sub standard schools.

 

[PhonZhi]

The thing about movies is that there is a clear separation between fantasy and reality. People who leave the theater after watching an action movie are not running up on each other trying to do the moves and shyt later on. Marvel and DC stans are not having shootouts every time one of them releases a movie..

The whole "bu bu but what about movies" argument is the absolute WORSE comparison to try to make

If rap was like the movies then why the uproar when Ross got exposed as a former C.O? Its "just entertainment" right?

If rap was like the movies why the uproar when Drake got exposed for not writing his own rhymes? Its "just entertainment" right? Why should it matter

Why are there so many threads about rappers being fake and not really "bout that life"? Why does it matter if rappers really lived that life? Its "just entertainment" right?

Do we care if DeNiro and Pacino has killed or sold drugs when they play mobsters in movies?

 

[PhonZhi]

Its a symptom of the disease.

Why are rappers not allowed to rap about the disease?

 

[Dwolf]

Why are rappers not allowed to rap about the disease?

They can. No ones going to listen to it tho.

 

[PhonZhi]

hip-hop is not the problem, however the people in control of radio & tv is the problem

i don't care if u play whoever is the popular drug dealer, autotune rappers but at least mix in some conscious rappers once in a while....

but who cares cause rap is so polluted and not selling like it use to be, it will be a matter of time before it slowly become just the past

the problem is that when you bring this up you're labeled a "conspiracy theorist". They simply aren't aware that the intentional distortion of the black image has been a tactic used for a very long time. And that's exactly what modern-day hip-hop is doing. Its being used to keep the most negative stereotypes of black people alive in the mainstream consciousness. This not only affects how the rest of the world views black people, more importantly its affecting how we feel about OURSELVES. Its helping to keep us thinking lowly of ourselves by portraying us as thugs and criminals. We subconsciously feed into the sounds and images.

 

[Audemar]

They can. No ones going to listen to it tho.

 

[Bolzmark]

Its neither. It's a news report of whats going on in the world, particularly in the black community. The things that these dudes rap about was going on before rap existed.

 

[PhonZhi]

They can.

Actually what they can and CANNOT rap about is censored. In this vid its mentioned how the label wouldn't allow Young Buck to have a song about police brutality on one of his albums:



This is a common practice in hip-hop considering who controls it.

Ill have to find it but I watched a vid of Too Short awhile back talking about how the label wouldn't allow him to start rapping about more serious issues affecting the black community

 

[PhonZhi]

Its neither. It's a news report of whats going on in the world, particularly in the black community. The things that these dudes rap about was going on before rap existed.

Why dies the VAST MAJORITY of the music promote destruction and criminal behaviour? Are there no "regular" type black people? Are most black people thugs and pill-poppin savages hooked on lean? Are any of these rappers making music about the CAUSE of these issues: white supremacy?

 

[Bolzmark]

Why dies the VAST MAJORITY of the music promote destruction and criminal behaviour? Are there no "regular" type black people? Are most black people thugs and pill-poppin savages hooked on lean? Are any of these rappers making music about the CAUSE of these issues: white supremacy?

I would disagree that the VAST MAJORITY of the music is negative. But "regular" type black rappers do not get the same attention. And then look at the sources...young, often uneducated brothers from the streets who are out here rappin about what they see and do in the streets. More often than not, the public spends more money on that kind of rap, so it's at the forefront with corporate America pushing whatever makes them the most money. These types of rappers are not even educated enough to know about the power of white supremacy.

Also consider that while rap music often has a good deal of untruth in it, it also might be one of the most honest genres of music. A rapper commits crimes, he wants to rap about it. Other genres...not so much. Think about one of the major themes in rap - no snitchin. But this is not an idea that was created in rap music. Its an ideal that so many others live by. Ever heard of "The Blue Wall of Silence"? Thats the police version of "no snitchin". Difference is they are not going to boast about it like rappers.

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

ends there??

bruh, you only lying to your self.

you don't think kids are out here trying to emulate these dudes you are only lying to yourself.

I think it's the other way around if anything. Again, you're not looking at the big picture.

Gucci Mane made a song about El Chapo, a real drug trafficking czar.

Rick Ross named dropped Big Meech and Larry Hoover.

Rappers in the 90s constantly idolized Italian Mafia lifestyle, namely Jay Z, Nas and B.I.G.

Hell Nas himself even donned the moniker of Escobar for fukk sake.

50 Cent rapped about actual drug lords in the 80's and 90's in Ghetto Qu'ran.

Rappers themselves are caught in the high pace, live fast and die young mentality of other people who actually are in the criminal life and have fruits of their labor to showcase.

Why the fukk else would Tupac, at age 25 join the Pirus via Suge Knight. C'mon dude try again.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I thought we was talking about the younger generation, cause certain movies do have the same impact as music. Its still all about influence either way.

What is this impact and influence?

 

[Mr. Somebody]

It has the potential to be both cancerous and healing. Demons run the world so obviously the music is cancer in its most popular form, friends.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Future, migos, chief keef, young thug, 21 savage etc dont promote ignorant life styles?

They are entertainers. Is GTA promoting a negative lifestyle?

You dummies that criticize rap @phonzi as well never tell me who is out here killing and selling dope because of a rap song.

And if you didnt do those things because of rap why you do you believe another fellow black person did this because of a damn song.

like @BrothaZay said. None of you could've really grown up around black people.

 

[Lifer11]

Its whats being programmed by white media comglomerates.

So why be suprised when all you hear about is death and murder?

The revolution will not be televised should make even more sense to you now.

How hard is that to understand?

White media conglomerates are greedy capitalists, they'll push whatevers popular. Same reason movies like Scarface or anything from Tarantino are popular, people like the violence, sex, and drugs. If the culture shifted and people were only buying positive uplifting shyt that's what would get pushed.

Look how much promotion Kendrick and Cole get because there's a big market that ensures their music is in demand, but it's not big enough to warrant many more artists making rap music with substance.