Debate: Is Hiphop A Cancer Or Cure?

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You are obviously oblivious to how powerful music itself is.

Music can literally change and alter peoples emotions and thoughts.....and ultimately our ACTIONS both positively and negatively. Its much deeper than "just entertainment"
Its not much deeper than "just entertainment" but if you need something to make yourself feel better ok. It can change people's emotions but that means nothing if you do nothing with it. I get hype when I workout listening to music I'm not about to start a drug syndicate, rape a chick, shoot a nikka, etc off words I heard in a song. Y'all cats look for stuff to make yourselves some special snowflakes
 

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Because that implies you're right from the jump.

Which you aren't
what am I wrong about? the fact that rappers lie and embellish their lifestyles fronting like its reality?

or the fact that the majority of music being pushed right now is negative?
 

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Idk breh to me its just entertainment at the end of the day. I look at it the same way I look at movies :francis:.

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The thing about movies is that there is a clear separation between fantasy and reality. People who leave the theater after watching an action movie are not running up on each other trying to do the moves and shyt later on. Marvel and DC stans are not having shootouts every time one of them releases a movie..
 

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"A cancer or cure" of what?
The black psyche/mindset under this system of white supremacy.


Is hiphop helping to steer our minds in the right direction needed to get from under the foot of oppression? Is it promoting in its messages the things needed to combat systemic oppression?
 

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what am I wrong about? the fact that rappers lie and embellish their lifestyles fronting like its reality?

or the fact that the majority of music being pushed right now is negative?

It's not that cut and dry for starters, and if you and most people are aware it's an emblishment of the braggdicio nature of hip hop, then I don't see the harm in that.

Also what you consider negative is merely subjective especially when you take in to account as to why an artist make said music contains such content matter you seem bleak.

Also, on the flip side you could argue all the "happy, positive, go lucky" music you hear on other stations from other non- Hip Hop artists is an embellishment on the reality of others as well.

But you won't.
 

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You are obviously oblivious to how powerful music itself is.

Music can literally change and alter peoples emotions and thoughts.....and ultimately our ACTIONS both positively and negatively. Its much deeper than "just entertainment"
The Nazis used Jazz to push their agenda but when it's Hip Hop, there's nothing influential about it. It's just entertainment. Either it's willful ignorance or ... I don't know any other option, music can and has changed a lot of shyt both negatively and positively.
 

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The Nazis used Jazz to push their agenda but when it's Hip Hop, there's nothing influential about it. It's just entertainment. Either it's willful ignorance or ... I don't know any other option, music can and has changed a lot of shyt both negatively and positively.
Just because your sheep drone don't make everybody else one. Maybe you'd get that but people with views like your usually seem to live life online and not much outside
 

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Just because your sheep drone don't make everybody else one. Maybe you'd get that but people with views like your usually seem to live life online and not much outside
:fukkery: Look at you getting all brazen, Calling me sheep. Here, have a dap.
 

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The thing about movies is that there is a clear separation between fantasy and reality. People who leave the theater after watching an action movie are not running up on each other trying to do the moves and shyt later on. Marvel and DC stans are not having shootouts every time one of them releases a movie..

I thought we was talking about the younger generation, cause certain movies do have the same impact as music. Its still all about influence either way.
 

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The Nazis used Jazz to push their agenda but when it's Hip Hop, there's nothing influential about it. It's just entertainment. Either it's willful ignorance or ... I don't know any other option, music can and has changed a lot of shyt both negatively and positively.

The Nazis "utilized" Jazz in order to win over the youth who rebelled against the facists ways of Hitlers regime, because they couldn't stop people as hard as they could from listening to the music that they deemed as degenerate. They wanted all entities of it banned from Germany.

Facing the Music: Jazz and the Third Reich

Funny that's what a lot of white people have said about black music since the days of ragtime, and now you have black people in 2016 sharing very similar sentiments.
 
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This is exactly why control of it was taken away from us. Once our oppressors saw how powerful & influential the art form was becoming in the early 90's, that's when they took it over and made it more commercial. Hiphop became less "conscious" and "gangsta rap" made its rise.

Hip-hop literally has the potential to shift the mindstate of black America for the better. Everything it glorifies currently benefits white supremacy whether its blacks killing blacks, making prison seem cool, drug use, gangs, extreme materialism or misogyny against black women,

In 2016, hip-hop is a benefit to white supremacy and a detriment to the black community. We can change that tho.
We can change that by supporting rappers like j cole and kendrick.
 
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