Debate: Is Hiphop A Cancer Or Cure?

[BrothaZay]

You nikkas needa stop acting like yall grew up around blacc ppl, because yall didn't.


Anyone who thinks hip hop is making the community worse or a reason why nikkas do the shyt they do in the hood, obviously grew up around cacs

 

[PhonZhi]

When used right its a cure.

This is exactly why control of it was taken away from us. Once our oppressors saw how powerful & influential the art form was becoming in the early 90's, that's when they took it over and made it more commercial. Hiphop became less "conscious" and "gangsta rap" made its rise.

Hip-hop literally has the potential to shift the mindstate of black America for the better. Everything it glorifies currently benefits white supremacy whether its blacks killing blacks, making prison seem cool, drug use, gangs, extreme materialism or misogyny against black women,

In 2016, hip-hop is a benefit to white supremacy and a detriment to the black community. We can change that tho.

 

[Mirin4rmfar]

I am sitting in my cube listening to a song call trapping out the uber. Its all about selling drugs and killing niccas...never did any of that. I have always excelled Academically. The area I grew up wasn't that amazing with that said, it's entertainment to me at best. With that said if you aspire to live up to what this trapping out the uber song is talking about, you are a dumb ass. It leads to nothing but prison or being 6 feet under.

I do recognize the pressure black males feel the need to live a certain hard image.

 

[The Mad Titan]

You nikkas needa stop acting like yall grew up around blacc ppl, because yall didn't.


Anyone who thinks hip hop is making the community worse or a reason why nikkas do the shyt they do in the hood, obviously grew up around cacs

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Hip hop cant be a cancer when its just a reflection of whats going on right now. It can be a cure when used right but in many instances it just adds fuel to the fire. That being said Im bumping Mobb Deep classics in the office right now

 

[BrothaZay]

This is exactly why control of it was taken away from us. Once our oppressors saw how powerful & influential the art form was becoming in the early 90's, that's when they took it over and made it more commercial. Hiphop became less "conscious" and "gangsta rap" made its rise.

Hip-hop literally has the potential to shift the mindstate of black America for the better. Everything it glorifies currently benefits white supremacy whether its blacks killing blacks, making prison seem cool, drug use, gangs, extreme materialism or misogyny against black women,

In 2016, hip-hop is a benefit to white supremacy and a detriment to the black community. We can change that tho.

Stop blaiming white people.

White people have power in hip hop cuz you new nikkas gave it to them.

Bacc in the day cacs had no say so in what was hot in the streets, nikkas didnt even take them serious if they tried to rap.
Now you got nikkas paying bands and giving away free beats and verses n shyt to get a white person on they song or their album reviewed by some cac blog

 

[PhonZhi]

I am sitting in my pretty cube listening to a song call trapping out the uber. Its all about selling drugs and killing niccas...never did any of that. I have always excelled Academically. The area I grew up wasn't that amazing with that said, it's entertainment to me and best. With that said if you aspire to live up to what this trapping out the uber, you are a dumb ass. It leads to nothing but prison or being 6 feet under.

I do recognize the pressure black males feel the need to live a certain hard image.

The last part of your post is an effect of hip-hop culture. It has played a huge role in why alot of young black males feel the need to act "hard" and super masculine. Hip-hop culture glorifies being a thug and savage.

 

[BrothaZay]

The last part of your post is an effect of hip-hop culture. It has played a huge role in why alot of young black males feel the need to act "hard" and super masculine. Hip-hop culture glorifies being a thug and savage.

Why was the murder rate in the 70s and early 80s way higher than it is now?

 

[thekingsmen]

This is exactly why control of it was taken away from us. Once our oppressors saw how powerful & influential the art form was becoming in the early 90's, that's when they took it over and made it more commercial. Hiphop became less "conscious" and "gangsta rap" made its rise.

Hip-hop literally has the potential to shift the mindstate of black America for the better. Everything it glorifies currently benefits white supremacy whether its blacks killing blacks, making prison seem cool, drug use, gangs, extreme materialism or misogyny against black women,

In 2016, hip-hop is a benefit to white supremacy and a detriment to the black community. We can change that tho.

Only problem is we created a defeatist attitude and basically gave it away. The artform could have became a community builder with community grassroot participation but alot of the rappers of the 80s just wanted to get rich and successful and forgot about the bigger picture.

 

[2stainz]

why do you think the vast majority of mainstream, easily-accessible rap that's heard by the masses glorifies destruction and negativity?

started out turning that way in the late 80s as a reflection of drug/crack epidemic. i.e. violence, drug use, gangs, poverty, destroyed communities

but that got sooo popular that money got involved..... and the rest is history

 

[Supreme HD]

Its neither. Hiphop both has its positives and negatives. It can be used to take someone out of poverty who had nothing going for them, how kendricks song wesley theory clearly states that white executives give an uneducated black man all this money, tell him to promote drugs, lean and ignorance to other blacks youths who look up to rap stars and rich white kids who consume it the most and see rap as the modern day minstrel show. Those blacks kids being pimped out as kendrick states are not being taught how to manage their money and they eventually go broke while they made a cac and jew millions. Another postive of hip hop is that it can inspire and reach a worldwide audience about the issues within the black community like chances coloring book album with is positive as fukk and kendricks to pimp a butterfly which teaches about black love, institutional racism and depression. However the negatives as this time in hip hop are outweighing the positives.

 

[The Mad Titan]

The funny thing about indoctrination is...

 

[PhonZhi]

I was actually about to make a similar thread. I'm driving from site to site and flipping through different stations. And the thing that stands out the most is how negative all the songs are on the urban stations kill, murder, steal, im cooler than you, infidelity, rich, I'll take your girl, money money money. It's really sad while on other stations I've heard everything from I can't go home with you tonight because I have a woman at home too "be happy life is a journey"

The general tone of most of the music is so much more enthusiastic and upbeat without bashing or being negative of others.

I made a couple threads about this exact topic:


http://www.thecoli.com/threads/pois...plifting-others-usher-raymond-edition.324730/


http://www.thecoli.com/threads/pois...-uplifting-others-chris-brown-edition.338389/

Take Chris brown and Usher for instance. I noticed when I heard their music on pop stations, the songs were more positive and uplifting, but on urban stations aimed at blacks you get the songs that's more vulgur.

You are correct tho, I don't hear references to violence, gangs, lean, xanax and percocet until I tune to stations aimed at blacks

 

[BmoreGorilla]

you are right, when utilized correctly hip-hop is an AMAZING tool that can uplift, motivate, inspire and educate.

But why do you think the vast majority of mainstream, easily-accessible rap that's heard by the masses glorifies destruction and negativity?

I heard a line by Future " I can't feel my face, I'm on adderall nauseaus" and thought how da hell is this even remotely responsible to be played on mainstream radio

Instead of blaming hip hop itself blame the media outlets for pushing the negativity. A artist should be able to talk about whatever they want.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Stop being naive, there is nothing positive about hip hop as a whole now.

You can find positive rap now, but it's not like it was. it's like a good woman that is now being whored out but still has some of those amazing qualities you use to love.


I love rap, grew up on it and I've done some stupid things ( 3/6 hitamotherfuka instantly comes to mind) and I've been inspired positively by it also.

The problem now is the negatives far out weight the positive and that's our fault.


Our imagine world wide is defined by music and sports. And that's scary and sad.