Debate: You can't be pro-black and religious

Can you be pro-black and religious?

  • No

    Votes: 26 27.7%
  • Yes

    Votes: 63 67.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 5 5.3%

  • Total voters
    94

Richard Wright

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ok.

You can be an affective force if your focus is in order. For example, you can start a gun club.. train young dudes in technology, even build w brothers who don't agree with you religious views because you personal belief is irrelevant in most settings. I don't think if you're training some young dudes on software development or financial literacy that it even matters if u are or aren't a Christian.

All these religions started in aFrica... We are brainwashed by a cac version of Christianity -- I agree with that.. but a Christian isn't a automatic c00n for believing... And that doesn't mean he can't build. .... As we see with history.
You can't say a historical context means nothing.....and still be aware of all the social situations in america and conflict situations around the world. We have no legit reason to Shun religion or spirituality.. We had that before white people even existed on Earth and will have that after they are gone. Technically the OP is a c00n post.

Ideas and values are fixed .... .whether we are speaking on religion, politics, or any idea or concept. That ALL depends on the person. There are people who were raised Christian who are now Muslim. Raised Muslim who are now atheist. non religious to Christian.. Democrat to independent. Only the lost dumb and deaf are stagnant in their views... Some people actually hold their views for good reason. Our people holding on to false ideas of Jesus --- has more to do with cac brainwashing and poverty than the idea of religion itself.

never say never..... and the point is.. that it doesn't really matter what you are spiritually you can still be pro black.

I think the wrong question is being asked here then. It is not a matter if the religious can be pro black. The question we should ask is if we are in any position to reject the help of the sincere religious people. I have never met one but will not be ignorant enough to say there are none out there. Its is very easy for me to look at slavery, or how modern 'leaders' in our community like Sharpton and Jackson come from a religious leadership background and dismiss the spiritual altogether.

We need to be thinking about how we can use the ideas of all groups of people - all races, religions, political/socio/economic groups, different nations, basically any successful group of people. Let's think about using their ideas to improve ourselves. The path toward improvement is one of embracing the people who genuinely want to improve the community intellectually and socially. We need to reject the democrat/preacher ask for a handout and take from the community leadership we have had such as kwame kilpatrick and Sharpton. Not because of their religion, but because they have no incentive to want us to be better.

We need to identify people who actually care about the cause. We can not afford to exclude based on religion or include those among us that are solely self interested. And we need to do it smartly. I'm worried the lower class doesn't have many leadership choosing mistakes left before complete obscurity.
 

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Whose ancestors?

Ours. I see you edited your post. Our ancestors escaped and went to churches singing the spirituals we have and sing today. They went to the houses of others relying on their love and charity.

They used code words found in the scriptures of the Bible. Our ancestors worked harder than we do weather by force or by choice. They prayed to God to be delivered from slavery they believed in Jesus.

Even the guy who wrote the song Amazing Grace (good read) knew enough to thank God for getting himself out the mess he was in.
 

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Let's speak on another issue about 'control'
many of these atheists here love talking about control and how the slavemasters used it to control black slaves, but conveniently ignore the racist origins of many policies they support which derived from atheist racists. How about we talk about the millions of black lives extinguished at the hands of abortion and how it is on record that Margaret Sanger is a racist and wanted Planned Parenthood to help cull the black population? Do you think these white racist atheists look at you as the same level as them? Instead of the Bible, they will cite inferior, subpar genetics and the need to cleanse the gene pool.
 

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Ours. I see you edited your post. Our ancestors escaped and went to churches singing the spirituals we have and sing today. They went to the houses of others relying on their love and charity.
Doesn't mean god exists

They used code words found in the scriptures of the Bible.
there are no code works in the bible.

Our ancestors worked harder than we do weather by force or by choice. They prayed to God to be delivered from slavery they believed in Jesus.
Doesn't mean god exists

Even the guy who wrote the song Amazing Grace (good read) knew enough to thank God for getting himself out the mess he was in.
Living through a storm on a ship full of slaves?

Oh ok.
 

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Let's speak on another issue about 'control'
many of these atheists here love talking about control and how the slavemasters used it to control black slaves, but conveniently ignore the racist origins of many policies they support which derived from atheist racists. How about we talk about the millions of black lives extinguished at the hands of abortion and how it is on record that Margaret Sanger is a racist and wanted Planned Parenthood to help cull the black population?
my stance on abortion has nothing to do with if there is a god or not.

You might as well ask if atheism says what my favorite salad dressing is :stopitslime:

Do you think these white racist atheists look at you as the same level as them? Instead of the Bible, they will cite inferior, subpar genetics and the need to cleanse the gene pool.
Eugenics has nothing to do with atheism

fukking idiot
 

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Abandoning religiosity, in addition to all other forms of superstition and irrationality help to improve the state of mental health in the black community

Didn't Pot, Stalin, Lenin and Mao do the same for their respective communities? The greatest deaths in human history have come under atheist regimes.
 

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Didn't Pot, Stalin, Lenin and Mao do the same for their respective communities? The greatest deaths in human history have come under atheist regimes.
They instituted state religions where-by they were revered as deities themselves.

Abrahamic religions aren't the only ones on the block.

AND EVEN STILL, this does not support whether or not your god exists.

You might as well admit you don't even believe in your own fukking god since your only reason for believing is that you think it matters, not that it exists.
 

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wow.


Do you not realize that black Muslims in America helped black people to not think of themselves as mules? They were some of the first and def the most effective of instilling black pride in the masses in the first place. You think Malcolm X was the only one? Or do you of course think X is a c00n too? We wouldn't even be typing on this shyt right now if it wasn't for black muslim and spin off groups creating damn near all the slang we use and pushing hip hop and knwledge. I remember in the 80...and early 90s... almost every single 'conscious' person was at least cool w black Muslims.
Now all we do is divide our people and hate on Muslims just because cac media is hating on white arabs and those white arabs happen to be Muslim,




smh.

I'm talking about Muslim extremists, there's a big difference. just because ISIS is made up of extremists doesn't mean they represent all Muslims.

I'm not dividing anything, my idea is to use ALL of the resources available in the Black community, regardless of what those people believe in.
 

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Doesn't mean god exists

there are no code works in the bible.

Doesn't mean god exists


Living through a storm on a ship full of slaves?

Oh ok.

Neither. He was a black guy who sold slaves. He became a slave because he thought he was so high and mighty on his own. Some white guys caught him without his papers (he didn't think he needed them) and they sold him. It really is a good read.
 
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