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You can be an affective force if your focus is in order. For example, you can start a gun club.. train young dudes in technology, even build w brothers who don't agree with you religious views because you personal belief is irrelevant in most settings. I don't think if you're training some young dudes on software development or financial literacy that it even matters if u are or aren't a Christian.
All these religions started in aFrica... We are brainwashed by a cac version of Christianity -- I agree with that.. but a Christian isn't a automatic c00n for believing... And that doesn't mean he can't build. .... As we see with history.
You can't say a historical context means nothing.....and still be aware of all the social situations in america and conflict situations around the world. We have no legit reason to Shun religion or spirituality.. We had that before white people even existed on Earth and will have that after they are gone. Technically the OP is a c00n post.
Ideas and values are fixed .... .whether we are speaking on religion, politics, or any idea or concept. That ALL depends on the person. There are people who were raised Christian who are now Muslim. Raised Muslim who are now atheist. non religious to Christian.. Democrat to independent. Only the lost dumb and deaf are stagnant in their views... Some people actually hold their views for good reason. Our people holding on to false ideas of Jesus --- has more to do with cac brainwashing and poverty than the idea of religion itself.
never say never..... and the point is.. that it doesn't really matter what you are spiritually you can still be pro black.
I think the wrong question is being asked here then. It is not a matter if the religious can be pro black. The question we should ask is if we are in any position to reject the help of the sincere religious people. I have never met one but will not be ignorant enough to say there are none out there. Its is very easy for me to look at slavery, or how modern 'leaders' in our community like Sharpton and Jackson come from a religious leadership background and dismiss the spiritual altogether.
We need to be thinking about how we can use the ideas of all groups of people - all races, religions, political/socio/economic groups, different nations, basically any successful group of people. Let's think about using their ideas to improve ourselves. The path toward improvement is one of embracing the people who genuinely want to improve the community intellectually and socially. We need to reject the democrat/preacher ask for a handout and take from the community leadership we have had such as kwame kilpatrick and Sharpton. Not because of their religion, but because they have no incentive to want us to be better.
We need to identify people who actually care about the cause. We can not afford to exclude based on religion or include those among us that are solely self interested. And we need to do it smartly. I'm worried the lower class doesn't have many leadership choosing mistakes left before complete obscurity.