All I'm sayin' is that Russ was a big time dude even before meeting Rubin at NYU. And what would Def Jam be with just Rubin only, a novelty underground punk label? You making it sound like Russ was small potatoes out there struggling on the street until the Jew Gawd Rubin threw him a lifeline

Def Jam just happened to scoop LL up??

everybody was rollin' with Rush breh... Run DMC, LL, Eric B & Rakim, DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince, Public Enemy. LL had to f*ck with Def Jam just because of Russ, plus they're both from Queens. Go ahead and big up the whites but please don't undermine Russ