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no nikkas in that picture
someone fukked up
Look again towards the right. There's 3 black (or Latino) in the pic.
Def Jam Executives at Dinner
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Look again towards the right. There's 3 black (or Latino) in the pic.
It doesn't matter if they are white or black, what matters the most is if they know, love, and care about the music. There used to be black people at labels that didn't care about rap music. I doubt these people do, they look corporate. Why do corporate people feel the need to always have the look of being regular? Even in a field when its about being as cool as can be, which means everyone would have their own style for the most part.
Not true. His label American Records(formerly Def American) Put out so many well known acts, it's ridiculous. It's just that most of them were in rock but, the label is still going since forming in the late 80's, although it's not like it used to be
Yes it does matter if they are black or not. The people who created the artform deserve to be the masters of said artform. Period.
And to the guy talking about black bosses dikk people. That's the point, it's only a problem when blacks do it. I agree with what Combat Jack said. No one said anything to Lyor or Iovine, but they'll dry snitch on Diddy and Reid. And L.A Reid never dikked anyone, TLC doesn't exist to bytch about making "more" money in the first place. fukk outta here.
And to the guy talking about black bosses dikk people. That's the point, it's only a problem when blacks do it. I agree with what Combat Jack said. No one said anything to Lyor or Iovine, but they'll dry snitch on Diddy and Reid. And L.A Reid never dikked anyone, TLC doesn't exist to bytch about making "more" money in the first place. fukk outta here.
The point I'm making is it doesn't matter if they are black or white if they don't love the music, and understand it. Both black, and white, people are the reason hip hop died. If you love it, chances are there will be a lot of black people at the table, as well as some whites, latins, and asians. It's just how it is. When you go to a battle for dj's, its full of white boys, and asians. The same for dancing. Blacks just have the rapping on lock. Once you make something like music be solely about race, anyone can come in, and fukk it up, and use their race as a badge of knowing how shyt goes. Look at Def Jam when LA reid came in, he is known to not like rap music, and look at what def jam turned into,, a more r&b label.
I'm not saying he isn't but, being in the streets don't make you hip hop. Unless you are seeing what they are artists is saying is true. Knowing music, and knowing the streets, is two different things. People who know rap music need to be the ones in these positions not hooking up your homeboy, or hiring a good executive you know. Music is one of the only industries that anyone can get a high paying job, and have no idea how the shyt works. They can just tell you to do what someone else is doing, and if the record sells, they get labeled a genius or know what they are doing when it's really the artists who needs that credit.
Yes it does. A black person who doesn't love it is better for the culture than a white person who "does". White folks are just obsessed and their "love" results in things getting messed up, as has already been proven.
Wrong. Hip Hop is not dead, and it will never die. Non blacks choose to believe it because they want it to die, because they hate that they love something they can't have (obsession). Non blacks are jealous of Hip Hop but even if rap music as a musical genre falls off Hip Hop will go on as it's always had with the original people. In fact, most of us can't wait for the day it "falls off" according to the 9's. The very fact that "certain" people think that Hip-Hop can die let's me know that they aren't and were never actually apart of the culture. How can you kill a culture as long as the people and it's history live on? You can't.
outsiders will always be around on some groupie shyt no doubt, that can't be helped. We've always been a very influential people and outsiders can't help but to dikk ride everything we do.
Music can be listened to by anyone. Anyone can be a groupie. However, no matter what you say or do, you are either actually apart of the culture or not.
Also, no offense, but shut the fukk up about L.A Reid. He and Face have done as much for black people and the culture as just about every activist combined.
Man, i seen whites who love hip hop much more then a lot of blacks. I don't agree with that at all. I've seen white boys breakdown rap, and can pick out banging songs, while at the same time, the blacks just want what sounds like something else that's popular or represent where they come from, and the shyt is wack as hell.
Hip hop is dead means the vibe of it, not the music. I grew up to it and was a fan from 1982/1983 so I seen it grow, and change. The feeling, and vibe you used to get isn't there anymore. It's just people who rap, and thats it. No DJ's. No art to make you go DAMN. The dancing comes once in a while. The style has gone away, unless what you call copying the looks of a GQ magazine style. Or putting on a hat, with some expensive jeans style. This is why Nas, and I say Hip Hop is dead. You are connecting race to a culture forgetting all of us don't think the same. I remember when most blacks weren't down with rap, it wasn't music to them. Why do you think a lot of west coast, and southern hip hop got so big, it catered to the r&b sound a lot of people liked. NYC rap was different then those and only a few actually liked it. It was a lot of people but, when producers started making music that had a more r&b sound or funk sound, it sold way more, and that's what execs wanted both black, and white. They sold the music out for more money, and eventually you have what we have today.
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you guys should of tried to get jobs at def jam years ago, this is what happens when you leave things open
You seem have rap and Hip Hop culture (which is a sub-culture of black culture and it's people) confused.
What the hell are you talking about? Sounds like you're a confused fan. Race is directly related to culture in everything, not just Hip Hop. Hip Hop comes from black people and culture so of course it's related as it should be. Most blacks weren't down with rap? LMAO! And R&B/Soul/Funk comes from black culture as well, so black folks liking those sounds makes sense, especially since they came first.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to make money from it. It's no different than Chinese food. The issue was outsiders who owned the corporation would put clauses in their loans that stipulated that they can dictate what the recipient of said loan (i.e the rapper) can create. I guarantee if the hip hop was majority black owned and distributed all the topics that are constantly debated about daily would not exist.
