Delaware puts Child Support Cards in Effect

[Guile]

No. It isn't because if that comes up in court. That the funds were used in an intended way and a lawyer states that the funds were used for transportation and utilities then we have made it a massive waste in time and resources.

People don't get along that easily. As evidence by this thread. There is too mch distrust, between distruaght couples.

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

So, you're just expressing rage. Gotcha.

This breh was arrested for OVERPAYING his CS. Take heart nikkas who dont pay or overpay are being HANDLED:

Lol that's very strange to lock someone up for overpaying.

 

[rapbeats]

The courts set the amount, NOT the mother. They normally have a paper with expenses and the mother says how much it costs and she normally needs proof. They then split the total. So just because YOU feel child rearing SHOULD be cheaper, doesn't mean that's how it goes. However, I don't see a problem with both parents coming up with an agreement without using the court's method.

i didnt say it SHOULD be cheaper. i said, its not as much as some of these ladies hoped it to be. especially those that are mothers of baller dudes. sorry lady, you dont deserve 5k per month. there's not a kid on the planet that NEEDS 5k to grow up. stop it.

this entire discussion is not about Dead beat daddys. those go without saying. this is not a thread about responsible mothers that use their support for the child, not to get pretty for the club, not on their new dude that can't stand that other mans kid you have. We're purely talking about the ladies that need to be put on a card like this because they are on some sheisty baby mama nonsense and the father is trying to do rihgt by their child(ren).

 

[Imlinkin]

It would be easy to create a list of items that CS is approved for:
A % of food
A % of shelter costs including utilities

That would be a good place to start if the funds for the most BASIC human needs were sent directly to the landlord and a debit card for groceries.

Most fathers would be ok with just that alone

 

[Clayton Endicott]

We had this here for years.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

That Brazilian thread is all the evidence a person needs about your viewpoint on dudes who travel for female companionship.

What does sex tourism masquerading as "traveling for female companionship" have to do with not fukking women with no condom?

You keep making the same stupid sweeping generalizations when in fact most men who pay child support were actually married first then separated or divorced.


"Characteristics of Custodial Mothers. About 31.2 percent of custodial mothers have never been married. The remaining ever-married mothers included (43.7 percent) who were divorced or separated and 25.1 percent who were currently married or widowed."

"Characteristics of Custodial Father. The majority of custodial fathers were divorced or separated (56.2 percent), while 24.5 percent were currently married or widowed and 20.3 percent had never been married."

http://www.census.gov/people/childsupport/data/files/chldsu11.pdf

Child Support Statistics and Trends - FindLaw

This doesn't change my point breh. U dont want to pay child support, don't have kids

U want the system to be more fair, change it

As the system is though, you want 100% assuredness that u won't get caught in the CS loop, the choices you have are obvious

 

[wickedsm]

no one is going to get over child support until ladies stop trying to gouge dudes and do nothing for 18 years and use the dudes broke pockets(usually) to fund her doing nothing for 18 years. its called CHILD support. not mother support. unless yall were married. he owes YOU ZERO. he owes you a nanny payment for holding the child down and half of the kids rent money. half of the kids food bill, half of the kids clothing bill and half of some of the kids extra curricular( i said some because if yall were together he may or may not agree with every extra curricular that you want to put the child into.) this wouldnt amt to a ton of cash like you think.

That would actually amount to a shyt load of money. Do you have any idea how much licensed full time child care costs?
Think of a preschool age child. Not in school yet. Even at 2$ an hour (nowhere near minimum wage)that's 336 a week. Take the non custodial parents half that's almost 170. ×4. That's 680 a month.
Assume the custodial parent needs a 2 bedroom for the child to have its own room. Maybe the difference between a 1 bedroom and 2 bedroom (cause the custodial parent would need to pay rent with or without baby) is 150 a month. Half of that is 75.
Food for the child? Let's be conservative and say 200 for the whole month and that includes 3 meals and snacks. Half of that is 100. (And formula is expensive as shyt btw.

Clothes? Pampers? Medical care? Medicine/vitamins?
I didn't even add any of those.

That's 855.

I know one brother upthread said he pays 9 something a month but trust me when I say most men you know are not paying almost 900 a month in cs for one kid.

The existing formula at least takes into account what the mother earns and if she's unemployed they will impute a minimum wage income for her.


I agree there's some ain't shyt bytches that spend the baby's money on themselves.
I agree there's issues in the family court system.

I don't agree that a grown person male or female doesn't have to be financially responsible for the child they created. I don't and won't ever.

 

[rapbeats]

Lol that's very strange to lock someone up for overpaying.

he's black right? so its not strange. we're in amerikkka right? see this is another thing these ladies dont get. truth is, you should never lock a dude up for child support. it doesnt teach them a lesson, it makes them less capable of EVER paying it. even if by some miracle they get their head on straight and realized their responsibility. but naw.. these ladies are women scorned. not realizing idiots all you are doing is contributing to the white man's wet dream of keeping black dudes in jail. sure he did it to himself. but you didnt have to help him do it by calling the white man on him. if your dude aint paying up. guess what? Time to do what you gotta do on your end to make things work for you and your kid. the hell with a loser father. and the hell with white courts jailing black people getting free labor out of him. those courts are getting more out of the dead beat daddy then the lady is. think about that for a moment. these ladies are not teaching him a single lesson. they more or less become white cops at that point.

again, if you laid down with some sorry half working dude. why on earth would you EXPECT him to all of a sudden grow up and pull his weight? you slept with him. no one made you. you slept with him and let him go raw. you did that. the idiot father doesnt care. he never did. you should've known that when you laid down with him. so now you're going to feel the pain of that bad choice. shake it off. and understand he's not going to help/assist you. sending him to jail wont benefit you one bit.

its actually a waste of time to be honest.

 

[DrunkenNovice]

What if the child needs lunch money or money for a school trip and the mom doesn't have it? Can she retrieve money from the card?

The video i watched didnt mention cash access....it kinda defeats the purpose.

Mama better budget

 

[Rawtid]

Merchants have category codes for When transactions are processed so they could limit it that way.

Example my health insurance gives me a visa card but of course i cant use it anywhere but doctors offices / hospitals. Itll be denied anywhere else.

Just because your card is limited to certain merchants, doesn't mean merchants outside of that don't have products that's beneficial to your health. For example, gym memberships and multi-vitamins/supplements aren't typically HSA eligible expenses, does that men they aren't beneficial to your health? The same goes with CS, there are a lot of expenses that may not be considered related to a child's well-being but are certainly important.

What if the child needs a tutor, swimming lessons, music lessons, etc? ON TOP of everyday expenses these things are difficult to pay for, is it "wrong" for the mother to use the CS money for these things?Is it wrong for the mother to use CS to pay for the car repairs so she can get her child from A to B?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

thats easy for someone who can pay. not easy for someone who barely surving they damn self.

im sure in your case its not easy being the custodial parent. but what about the case with the dude giving up 40 percent of his take home and the woman getting that and gov assistance? not having to worry about rent or food and not working. she really got it hard?

What % of cases is this representative of

And if a dude can barely survive his damn self why is he nutting raw in women? He needs to get situated instead of busting nuts he can't afford.

The system is fukked up but we can't keep giving dudes passes for making bad decisions. And again, a couple hundred dollars a month is still nothing compared to custody, regardless of how much the dude is making.

 

[Imlinkin]

If I was a single mom I'd feel like I was in the driver's seat. Cats are more afraid of being behind on CS than they are of being a minor & waving a toy gun around in the park. I had to bail my boy out of jail because he lost his job after falling behind on child support & being arrested for it...so he REALLY fell behind being jobless


...loves his kids, not a stereotypical breh.

Lol that's very strange to lock someone up for overpaying.

 

[Geek Nasty]

Now what they need to do is pass laws making sure thots aren't turning around and selling their child's clothes on the street and running to the club.

 

[Rawtid]

i didnt say it SHOULD be cheaper. i said, its not as much as some of these ladies hoped it to be. especially those that are mothers of baller dudes. sorry lady, you dont deserve 5k per month. there's not a kid on the planet that NEEDS 5k to grow up. stop it.

this entire discussion is not about Dead beat daddys. those go without saying. this is not a thread about responsible mothers that use their support for the child, not to get pretty for the club, not on their new dude that can't stand that other mans kid you have. We're purely talking about the ladies that need to be put on a card like this because they are on some sheisty baby mama nonsense and the father is trying to do rihgt by their child(ren).

Agree to disagree. Private school tuition alone can run you $20k + PER YEAR! Not to mention when you live in more expensive areas, shyt is generally more expensive. So if you're living in the most exclusive neighborhood in your town, you can't really expect your child to live on the same amount a woman living in the projects gets

 

[DrunkenNovice]

Just because your card is limited to certain merchants, doesn't mean merchants outside of that don't have products that's beneficial to your health. For example, gym memberships and multi-vitamins/supplements aren't typically HSA eligible expenses, does that men they aren't beneficial to your health? The same goes with CS, there are a lot of expenses that may not be considered related to a child's well-being but are certainly important.

What if the child needs a tutor, swimming lessons, music lessons, etc? ON TOP of everyday expenses these things are difficult to pay for, is it "wrong" for the mother to use the CS money for these things?Is it wrong for the mother to use CS to pay for the car repairs so she can get her child from A to B?

I want to point out i just giving an example of technology thats in place to keep cards restricted.

With the insurance card if you need to use it at an unauthorized merchant you have to submit for reimbursement with a receipt showing what you bought.

Auto repairs fall under a personal expense imo. You should already have that money set aside.

I think the solution is expense reports. The father should be able to ask for an accounting of how the child support is being used.