Demarcus Cousins is to the Kings what Kevin Love was to the Timberwolves

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Here's the problem with your statement:

If you put him on those teams, there's a chance those teams have players better than him. If not, he could bring them down simply by being the temperamental guy he is. You can't keep avoiding that. Do the Kings suck? Yes. Are they dysfunctional? Yes. Does Cousins do himself or the team any favors by acting the way he does? NO. The cure to him not acting like a whiner is not to put better players around him. It could help, but it won't solve all his problems. He needs a babysitter, and as great as some players are, young players are simply not gonna wanna keep being his den mother. Look at KD and Beasley. Them two are super close, but them two have never been on the same NBA teams and when Beasley was out, KD never put in that word because KD isn't gonna wanna be responsible for him. Name me a team that will look out for Cousins and I'll show you a team that has better players than him.


I think the Celtics and Mavs would do wonders for Cousins, the talent is there, he really needs the structure to be better. Beasley has off court issues, the problem with Cousins is all on the court, and truth be told you can tell he at least wants to win.

Zach Randolph and Sheed had a lot of the same issues Cousins has, and once they were put in winning situations in structured teams things got better.
 
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-High usage, low returns ....how the fukk you damn near 7" and hasn't shot once over 50% for a season since he been in the league.

At some point we are going to have to look at Kings and admit that Cousins is the problem :yeshrug:
And at some point we are going to have to stop saying this nonsense.
 

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Well we can see you're a Kings fan and a fan of Boogie, so what's the deal with him? How much, if any, of the Kings ON COURT shortcomings would you attribute to him? I'm just asking cause I don't rock with the Kings or watch their games

I account the mess with the Kings the past two seasons to the front office , particularly Vlade Divac and Vivek , not Boogie actually. Yeah, he's a hot head but he does put in a lot of work in his game and he's a leader. He's not the best model citizen obviously but most of the criticism on him is from old shyt.


If the Kings were in the playoff race, or better yet, in the top five in the West, he would get far more positive buzz.

This is a perfect example of winning cures everything .
 

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I think the Celtics and Mavs would do wonders for Cousins, the talent is there, he really needs the structure to be better. Beasley has off court issues, the problem with Cousins is all on the court, and truth be told you can tell he at least wants to win.

Zach Randolph and Sheed had a lot of the same issues Cousins has, and once they were put in winning situations in structured teams things got better.
Sheed is actually a good comparison because he was an underachiever too who's career turned around once people figured out that his was a role player and not a number one. Boogie isn't a number one at this point.
Do you seriously believe he'd be a role player on the Celtics?
I don't know what he would be. I know that the Celtics wouldn't be a championship contender with him as their number one.
 

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His shot selection is worse than Jr Smith, 4 3s a game? Really nikka?

That said I would give him the key to the city immediately to get him on my team, he's literally 10 times more talented than love.
 

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I think the Celtics and Mavs would do wonders for Cousins, the talent is there, he really needs the structure to be better. Beasley has off court issues, the problem with Cousins is all on the court, and truth be told you can tell he at least wants to win.

Zach Randolph and Sheed had a lot of the same issues Cousins has, and once they were put in winning situations in structured teams things got better.
They were also put on teams with players better than them. All they had to do was fit in and stay in line. Carlisle has a good track record with dealing with malcontents (either you shape up or get shipped out). I don't know how Brad Stevens would fare in that situation because he's known for being a great coach, not necessarily a master of handling of egos. That's the next step for him.
 

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both of them would never lead a team to the finals or make a deep playoff run. they are too much mentally fragile.
Boogie every season has a new coach and half of the team traded, kings franchise is a damn chaos. Probably the worst ran organization in recent years.

Kevin love had two coaches in his wolves career which was rambis and Adelman, and Adelman was a damn good coach. And most of the time the core of his teammates stayed the same.

Meanwhile kings been trading players and firing coaches every damn season, drafted robinson, stauskas, jimmer, played each one of them for a season before trading away, traded thomas, traded tyreke, traded thornton. Mclemore and Gay are the only consistent teammates which is basically 3rd season of them playing together, one has bad character the other needs more minutes to play. This team is being ran like the euroleague team where they change coaches and whole team roster each season cause european teams are middle of the road for lots of basketball players.

Boogie may be another rasheed wallace, but nearly every superstar would be pissed off playing for that shytty franchise.
 

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A lot of excuses being made for Cousins.

I wouldn't want either as my first options. I think they are better suited for a sidekick or a third wheel role.
 

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They were also put on teams with players better than them. All they had to do was fit in and stay in line. Carlisle has a good track record with dealing with malcontents (either you shape up or get shipped out). I don't know how Brad Stevens would fare in that situation because he's known for being a great coach, not necessarily a master of handling of egos. That's the next step for him.

Not true, when Zach got to Memphis he was the best player on that team, and Sheed was without question the most talented player on the Pistons when he got there. They both went from shytty situations to much better ones and things improved, they still had their moments but winning was always the bottom line. I think winning the bottom line for Cousins, there's just no structure in place to help him do it, and he loses his shyt when that happens and does whatever he wants on the court which is why I have soured on his game, but I do think he could go to a team like the Celtics and help them out big time.

I think Cousins would respect Stevens because what he runs actually works, he respected Malone and was playing great defense for him :yeshrug:
 

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Sheed is actually a good comparison because he was an underachiever too who's career turned around once people figured out that his was a role player and not a number one. Boogie isn't a number one at this point.
I don't know what he would be. I know that the Celtics wouldn't be a championship contender with him as their number one.


Boogie would be a number 1 on the Celtics and they'd win with him, he's exactly what they are missing. I'm not the biggest fan of his game, but with more restraint he'd be a 23ppg 12rpg 48-52% player with the Celtics, the talent is undeniable, Sheed didn't want to be a number 1, he had the talent to be right there with KG and Duncan but he prefered to coast. I don't get the impression Cousins wants to coast, I get the impression he wants to win but doesn't understand how and the Kings haven't helped him much either with their drafting - Stauskas, Fredette, McLemore (talented but they fukked him over), trading Bismack Biyombo who would have been a good fit next to Boogie.


We're talking about an organization that took Fredette over Klay Thompson and Kawhi Leonard.
 
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