Demarcus Cousins is to the Kings what Kevin Love was to the Timberwolves

[#1 pick]

His defensive rating is actually really good considering his team is terrible at it, his rim protection isn't that great this year, he was very good last season and was one of the top rim protectors in the league when they had Mike Malone. When he wants to defend he honestly can do it at a very high level, he hasn't been doing it this year though, he's just sort of coasting as is.

My issue with him has been the wasted possessions and terrible shot selection, he turns the ball over so much bringing it up the court or trying to be a playmaker. Too many games you'll see him grab a board, then try and go coast to coast and throw the shyt out of bounds trying to hit someone cutting, it's like you aint a Point Center bruh. In a more structured team he could be a top 10 player, unlike Love he can defend when he wants to.


I think that if the Celtics get Ingram or Simmons in the lottery they will get Cousins in a trade, same way the Cavs got Love for Wiggins.

I am not big on Cousins to Boston but if they get that pick, I'll do it. Like I said before, Orlando has the golden ticket. They have a potential all star and a good young center. Boston can't offer that

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

that's not what I said at all. Is that a factor though? Absolutely. You'd be a fool to say it isn't. I don't think anyone is saying he's the main reason why they suck as an organization (if anyone knows about garbage basketball organizations, you're talking to him ), but a parting between Cousins and Kings is beneficial to both parties without factoring in the need to have Cousins around for their new arena (which is the ONLY reason why it wouldn't make sense to trade him)

A factor in what exactly though - in them losing? Nah. He's about the only reason they're competitive. There's a reason they have a horrendous record without him over the last few seasons. Does he need to fine tune his game and stay mentally checked in more regularly? Of course. But again half his problems on the court either have to do with the personnel around him or lack of stability/coaching.

Over the last three seasons - the Kings are 8-36 (18% win rate) without Cousins.

 

[Trapperman Dave]

Real talk...
No reason My Blazers with our best 2 players having LESS than 5 years experience. . Should be better than a team with Boogie, Rondo & Rudy gay... real talk.. like .. I was a LMA stan.. but.. I couldn't excuse the nikka having no playoff runs and always leading us to numerous 33 win years

Cuz the kings are ran by idiots, if mike malone was still there they might b better

 

[tremonthustler1]

A factor in what exactly though - in them losing? Nah. He's about the only reason they're competitive. There's a reason they have a horrendous record without him over the last few seasons. Does he need to fine tune his game and stay mentally checked in more regularly? Of course. But again half his problems on the court either have to do with the personnel around him or lack of stability/coaching.

Over the last three seasons - the Kings are 8-36 (18% win rate) without Cousins.

It's a factor in why teams are hesitant to rescue him from there.

 

[CKondomsuCK]

he hasn't shot over 50% once

 

[desjardins]

@ the sixers taking bum ass evan turner over him

The Kings are horribly run and Cousins isn't a transcendental player who can carry a bum team on his shoulders. It's basically a worse case scenario for a player like him. He probably would be a great #2 and better than Love as a #3 (i think). He's only 25 though so he still has time to improve his legacy. His problem is that he's good but not good enough to be screaming in coaches faces. Because of his rep/baggage I wonder how many teams would give up good packages to get him, and if they exist why haven't any of the proposed deals been leaked yet.

 

[ryderldb]

He's in a horrible situation, but his fg% is not a good look for a "dominant" big man.

 

[pete clemenza]

He's definitely talented but he cries too much to be a true leader imo. The refs let him slide on so much sh*t cause he could easily get two techs a game by halftime. He doesn't rally the troops ever. He's too busy going after someone.. the refs, opposing players, and the coaches.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Sheed is actually a good comparison because he was an underachiever too who's career turned around once people figured out that his was a role player and not a number one. Boogie isn't a number one at this point.
I don't know what he would be. I know that the Celtics wouldn't be a championship contender with him as their number one.

Let's back up and remember for a second that if it hadn't been for an epic 4th-quarter screwjob, Sheed would have a championship and probably a Finals MVP as the #1.

That Portland team was a rather balanced team, but we all knew that Sheed was the best player. He led the team in scoring and in shots taken, and in the playoffs he was the leading scorer and shottaker again putting up 18-7-2-1-1. Plus he was the only player on the team named to the All-Star game. Pippen had the "elder leader" role and Arvydas/Steve Smith/Stoudamire did their thing, but Sheed was the #1 on that team.

And he was only 25.

They're very different players, but the status is similar. Either one could be the best player on the right team had you'd have a shot to win the championship.

That's more than you can say for 99% of the league. LeBron, Curry and KD are about the only players that would be able to make something positive out of the dire state that the Kings are in.

Yeah, Lebron's run spoils everyone. Since he was 20, Lebron has made the Cavs serious contenders (either made the Finals or took the Finals-bound team to 6 or 7 games) every single year. And the Cavs have been a complete train wreck of an organization. But who else has ever done that? It's a team game in the end, and nearly everyone struggles if they're put in a shyt situation.

 

[Hammer]

Love used to average like 24 15

now barely averaging 15 9

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Love used to average like 24 15

now barely averaging 15 9

Love never put up 24 and 15 in any season in his life. Overall at Minny he averaged 19 and 12 in 6 seasons, and it fluctuated a lot from year to year. Coming off of injuries in 2013 he looked awful in 18 games (18 and 14 on 35% shooting), in 2012 and 2014 he looked great.

His last year in Minny he put up 26 and 12.5 in 36 min/game as the 1st option.

This year he's putting up 16 and 10 in 32 min/game as the 3rd option.

Back in Oct/Nov before Kyrie rejoined the team, he was averaging 20 and 12 in 34 min/game.

On a team with TT, Mosgov, and Lebron hitting the boards and him playing fewer minutes than before, his rebounding numbers HAD to drop. And with Lebron and Kyrie there, his shot attempt numbers had to drop too. The big issue is why he's shooting so poorly this year after being pretty much in line with his career averages last year. I don't think it's just the shoulder injury, but you have to think that had a part to play in it.

Love's current problems on the team are his poor scoring efficiency and his lack of defense, not his volume of production.

 

[Hammer]

Love never put up 24 and 15 in any season in his life. Overall at Minny he averaged 19 and 12 in 6 seasons, and it fluctuated a lot from year to year. Coming off of injuries in 2013 he looked awful in 18 games (18 and 14 on 35% shooting), in 2012 and 2014 he looked great.

His last year in Minny he put up 26 and 12.5 in 36 min/game as the 1st option.

This year he's putting up 16 and 10 in 32 min/game as the 3rd option.

Back in Oct/Nov before Kyrie rejoined the team, he was averaging 20 and 12 in 34 min/game.

On a team with TT, Mosgov, and Lebron hitting the boards and him playing fewer minutes than before, his rebounding numbers HAD to drop. And with Lebron and Kyrie there, his shot attempt numbers had to drop too. The big issue is why he's shooting so poorly this year after being pretty much in line with his career averages last year. I don't think it's just the shoulder injury, but you have to think that had a part to play in it.

Love's current problems on the team are his poor scoring efficiency and his lack of defense, not his volume of production.

my bad he had 20 15, 26 13 and 26 12...still those are elite numbers but dude is trash...he doesnt fit with the team at all

he's a soft ass 6'10 3 point chucker, he needs to completely redefine his game and do more of what he did earlier in his career

he use to be a double double machine...it ain't only his scoring and shooting that suffered but also his rebounding..

the fukk can't you get over 10 rebounds per game when ur team has no center and Mozgov only plays 15-20 mpg

 

[Professor Emeritus]

He DOES average 10 boards/game, in just 32 minutes/game. And he's out by the 3pt-line by design a lot.

Even when Mosgov is out, a rebounding machine named TT is in there. And Lebron gets an above-average share of boards for a SF.

His numbers there are just fine. It's the shooting % and the defense where the issues lie.

 

[Sonny Corinthos]

That's more than you can say for 99% of the league. LeBron, Curry and KD are about the only players that would be able to make something positive out of the dire state that the Kings are in.

None of those dudes do anything with this squad. Young non diva Bron could make this team a 8th seed in that stacked west

I'm not gonna go over everything else everybody said just know that this is easily the worst team...front office in all of major sports. It's just how poorly ran and fukkery filled this is. You just don't fire young coaches who actually get something out of shyt and actually have your stars ear. Whether it's good or bad Boogie hasn't been the same player since they let Malone go and I don't blame him fukk caring if they gonna just recklessly fire good coaches all willy nilly.

Him and Boston would be a dream matchup y'all crazy if you don't think adding him to a Celts squad right now that is arguably a top 5 east team wouldn't make them instantly beneath Clevland. Stevens is that good and he would be even better with a superstar like Cousins.

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

Malone was the right coach for the kings and boogie, but the front office and owner wanted to get involved and play in a high paced offense for no good reason really. I was digging their halfcourt offense with Gay at the 4 and Cousins at the 5

Before Boogie caught meningitis last year, Malone and the kings started off well. They used his hospitalization as an excuse to fire Malone while Boogie was away from the team because they knew Boogie wouldn't go along with it.

They've sabotaged him every step of the way and you want to blame him? Yeah shot selection is at times but he's forceful down there. It's no shocker Gay and Cousins called this the hardest season of their careers yesterday, George Karl been trying to suspend him every week.

I'm no apologist for that FG%, that shyt gotta improve