Democratic Party Rebuild

[KFBF]

Thiel is worse than any of Newsom’s handlers. Do some research

I know plenty about Thiel. Nothing about how Newsom is moving leads me to believe that he is running in opposition to Thiel and what he represents.

The distinction is that if the general election is between Newsom and Vance, Newsom is the far better choice.

Don't think there should be any opposition to asking/requiring Newsom to explain why he is the far better choice. If it's so evident he shouldn't have a problem.

 

[Outlaw]

I know plenty about Thiel. Nothing about how Newsom is moving leads me to believe that he is running in opposition to Thiel and what he represents.


Don't think there should be any opposition to asking/requiring Newsom to explain why he is the far better choice. If it's so evident he shouldn't have a problem.

You’re being purposefully obtuse,

If you can’t see how having a direct Thiel puppet as the president of the US is a grave threat or how a Newsom administration is preferable to Vance’s then you shouldn’t be discussing politics

This is a how is Kamala going to be better than Trump redux and we already see how playing footsies with fascists plays out

 

[wire28]

No one is saying Newsom is their first choice. The distinction is that if the general election is between Newsom and Vance, Newsom is the far better choice.

I’m not familiar with Reid Hoffman, how is Hoffman’s political ideology comparable to Thiels?

The strawman building quality has dropped immensely over the years. We went from “if given this reality, who would you choose, considering you care about the disenfranchised” to “why do you want Newsome to be president”

 

[KFBF]

This is a how is Kamala going to be better than Trump redux and we already see how playing footsies with fascists plays out

Kamala lost because she did not do an effective enough job communicating how her presidency would be a departure from Biden or preferable to Trump. "I'm not the other guy," might be an effective electoral strategy because of what a disastrous run Trump and the Republicans are having. But I don't think people asking "any other reasons I should vote for you besides you're not the other guy?" should be treated with derision and scorn.

 

[mastermind]

Newsome would be a horrible pick we may as well get ready for legit swatikas in 2032, the blow back from him will be massive from both sides tm

Yup

That was the danger with Biden in 2020. He didn’t understand the moment and now we have DC being patrolled by national guard and Trump has a police force in ICE that is abducting and murdering people with no consequences.

No one wants the same. We want change. A status quo type comes in, the next fascist may want segregation to return.

 

[88m3]

What the fukk is "Chasity"?

perhaps it's a southern thing @the next guy

 

[88m3]

We want change.

You got it. You still don't seem to get that despite your cries of both sides.

 

[wire28]

You got it. You still don't seem to get that despite your cries of both sides.

Unless you are begging for the proletariat revolution like Hasan and smooth mind, no one who sincerely cares about the well being of the marginalized and disenfranchised is voting third party in 2028. And I’m glad they are letting it be known early so we know not to take them seriously for the next several years when they let it slip

 

[Frump]

he doesn’t care that many trans people who are suffering right now would rather not be able to play in women’s sports but not fear for their safety and have Dems in charge

People like Hasan are performative theater kids cosplaying as revolutionists

They don’t want Dems to win because their grift relies on grievance and marching

 

[Loose]

Yup

That was the danger with Biden in 2020. He didn’t understand the moment and now we have DC being patrolled by national guard and Trump has a police force in ICE that is abducting and murdering people with no consequences.

No one wants the same. We want change. A status quo type comes in, the next fascist may want segregation to return.

The “lesser of two evils” strategy has just led to the evil becoming even more fascist every 4 years

 

[Frump]

The “lesser of two evils” strategy has just led to the evil becoming even more fascist every 4 years

Or people could have just fukkin voted for Kamala and we wouldn’t be in this position

Voting is about minimizing damage. You are never getting everything you want from a candidate so vote for the person who gives you at least a little of what you want and protects marginalized groups instead of the opposite

Having purity tests for politicans or people in general is a fruitless endeavor

 

[Outlaw]

Kamala lost because she did not do an effective enough job communicating how her presidency would be a departure from Biden or preferable to Trump. "I'm not the other guy," might be an effective electoral strategy because of what a disastrous run Trump and the Republicans are having. But I don't think people asking "any other reasons I should vote for you besides you're not the other guy?" should be treated with derision and scorn.

This type of spoiled child reasoning is why Trump won. The people who knew better didn’t get off their ass to vote because Kamala wasn’t good enough. fukk off

 

[wire28]

This type of spoiled child reasoning is why Trump won. The people who knew better didn’t get off their ass to vote because Kamala wasn’t good enough. fukk off

And unironically the people who knew better also happened to be most insulated from trumps policies hence them hitting the Jordan shrug at the prospect of 4 more years of it. They don’t care.

 

[Outlaw]

The “lesser of two evils” strategy has just led to the evil becoming even more fascist every 4 years

Not true at all, if Trump didn’t run we would have gotten Jeb Bush or Rubio vs Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Trumpism is a cancer that shifted the paradigm of politics as usual in this country. Without Trump most of the country would be sleep walking through a boring but stable political process

 

[KFBF]

This type of spoiled child reasoning is why Trump won. The people who knew better didn’t get off their ass to vote because Kamala wasn’t good enough. fukk off

Asking the Democratic nominee to layout a future for the country beyond "I'm not Trump" shouldn't be a controversial idea. I really don't think it's an unreasonable ask.