Democratic Party Rebuild
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Why are you quoting me and @ing me 5 times? Make one concise lost then get back to me
Florida is the worst example not only does it have too much open inventory in the wrong places it has a huge problem with urban sprawl which only helps the wealthy. not only does urban sprawl hurt conservations but additionally keeps prices high
. You do not understand urban economics, stick to Georgia politics.FYI I have lived in Florida ia for 10 years prior to 6 months ago
Same with Houston
Armchair Militant
Stay woke
South Florida has one of the worst housing crises in the nation
Nap doesn't know what in the fukk he's talking about, Florida is literally wasting land by building homes in the middle of no where, which doesn't decrease prices
Florida is the worst example not only does it have too much open inventory in the wrong places it has a huge problem with urban sprawl which only helps the wealthy. not only does urban sprawl hurt conservations but additionally keeps prices high
FYI I have lived in Florida ia for 10 years prior to 6 months ago
Same with Houston
Are you defending urban sprawl or not?
Yeah, because zoning says that all they can build you fukking idiot.
less zoning = less sprawl
Who are you talking to? I’ll address you in any order as I please. AND you’ll reply to each post as you’re told. Little Boy.
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Florida has literally little to no zoning laws and has a sprawl problem
. Less zoning = more urban sprawl dumb ass which is why supercities is the performed method of development, its less wasted land space and concentrated development. What you're asking for isn't less zoning you're asking for building reformWrong.Florida has literally little to no zoning laws and has a sprawl problem
Florida zoning reforms are a flawed but promising step - Reason Foundation
While far from ideal, the Live Local Act protects developers from mandatory municipal inclusionary zoning.
reason.org
You dont even know where you live.
Pull Up the Roots
Veteran
They don't want to build what isn't profitable. You guys keep arguing these market solutions, but ignore how it's all profit-driven. If affordable housing doesn't turn a profit, the industry just won't build it. This isn't about "wanting" to or not, it's about what the system rewards. That's the problem.
Ezra is displaying the same blind spot that keeps getting us nowhere by acting like the government is just failing to "use" corporations properly. But corporations aren't passive tools, they actively shape policy, lobby lawmakers, and capture the institutions that are supposed to regulate them. Corporations are a big problem because they've been enabled to dominate public functions. This is the problem with public-private partnerships and deregulation.
The idea that we can just subsidize the "right" industries to channel greed in the right direction is how we got into this mess. Harnessing greed for good? Greed doesn't naturally align with public good unless you build serious guardrails, and even then, the pressure to cut corners and extract more never stops. You don't fix systemic failure by feeding it more money and hoping for better results.
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
I think Ezra’s strategy is aligned with human psychology, especially the psychology of decision makers at large corporations which is greedy psychopathy. I think that one thing we need to reckon with is that greed will always be with us, especially with high performers who excel in corporate America.
How do you channel greed in a positive way? By allowing the government to pick winners and losers, allow the winners be industries that align with your overall political goals.
Do you think greed will disappear from the human zeitgeist once leftist take full control of the government? That flaw in human psychology will always be with us, id rather it be contained in controllable corporations than trust that the government will always be benevolent especially in a democracy
Pull Up the Roots
Veteran
You're not wrong that greed is a persistent part of human behavior, but where we differ is in the idea that we can just "channel" it and everything will work out. That just seems like accommodation. And when you build systems around accommodating greed, you end up with exactly what we have now where corporations are shaping public priorities to serve private profits.
The idea of letting government pick winners and losers sounds strategic until you realize it's usually the biggest donors and the industries with the most lobbying power influencing those picks. That's not the government being rational and wise, that's capitalism gaming democracy.
Also, the assumption that corporations are more "controllable" than government doesn't line up with reality. Corporations don't answer to the public, they answer to shareholders. At least with government, there's a theoretical mechanism for accountability through elections, public pressure campaigns, and oversight. With corporations, once they've captured policy-making power, the public is locked out.
I don't think leftist control would make greed disappear, but I do believe in designing a system that constrains and redirects it through real accountability, and not by feeding it and hoping it behaves.