Democratic Party Rebuild

[Loose]

This is ignoring inflation that was hitting the pockets of voters tho. Whether a lot of people were poorly spending is unimportant. People were constantly talkingZ about how expensive stuff was (even on the left). Kamala's biggest mistake was staying so attached to Biden. He was cancerous last two years of his term to the public

It's democrat hubris, instead of meeting people where they're Biden administration resorted to telling people how they should feel about the ecomomy. It's just flat out terrible politics, and why were in the situation we're in in general. I was telling people here about this since at least midterms

Just because prices have stabilized doesnt mean

A. Prices have went down
B. People have made more to cover the higher expenses.
C. People aren't underemployed in general

He's right, even though inflation nor gas prices is bidens fault that's all voters will care about come for the rest of the year, similar to covid in 2020. Average American is worried about wages rent and food, not Ukraine

This facts. Dems bout to get absolutely slaughtered at the polls

Republicans is absolutely going to crush dems like i said few months ago. Inflation, gas prices etc will be the reason. No one cares if this isn't directly caused by dems but they will be blamed.

Economy Muslims sitting out inflation versus abortion. Gonna be a tough battle. Not something you want

Anyone with a brain seen this coming since at least 2022. Biden was more concerned about world politics then domestic issues

 

[bnew]

Fight or flight

Fight or flight - lemm.ee

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Posted on Friday, May 23rd, 2025 at 6:48:05 PM GMT-04:00

 

[King Kreole]

This is a lie.

What do you think happens when leftists criticize democrats and ignore republicans?

An army of Democratic bootlicking shills come out and accuse the leftist of being foreign agents or secret MAGA in order to make sure the criticism doesn't land and things stay the way they are.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It's democrat hubris, instead of meeting people where they're Biden administration resorted to telling people how they should feel about the ecomomy. It's just flat out terrible politics, and why were in the situation we're in in general. I was telling people here about this since at least midterms

Just because prices have stabilized doesnt mean

A. Prices have went down

they’re higher now

B. People have made more to cover the higher expenses.

So why didn’t people appreciate this?

C. People aren't underemployed in general

Unemployment is up

Anyone with a brain seen this coming since at least 2022. Biden was more concerned about world politics then domestic issues

Should democrats lie more?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

An army of Democratic bootlicking shills come out and accuse the leftist of being foreign agents or secret MAGA in order to make sure the criticism doesn't land and things stay the way they are.

Are you a patriotic leftist or a globalist leftist?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Growing up we didn’t have people deciding to join the ranks of the guys that just sat on somebody’s neck for nine minutes, or barge into someone’s crib and shoot them while they ate ice cream or etc etc

But yea it’s not fully the 15 year olds fault, it all comes back to how he was raised, which leads us back to Mr. Tapper and the environment he constructed that made this young man feel this way

I’m talking about pre-Obama era democrats. Maybe I’m older than you…

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[wire28]

I’m talking about pre-Obama era democrats. Maybe I’m older than you…

Obama was my first election. I’m

You must be

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

What happened to that guy that got deported that everyone was crying about and using as a political tool

 

[Loose]

What happened to that guy that got deported that everyone was crying about and using as a political tool

Hakeem jefferies establishment consultants and chuck schumer said democrats shouldn't fight for illegal immigrants

 

[Loose]

they’re higher now

So why didn’t people appreciate this?

Unemployment is up


Should democrats lie more?

What does any of this babbling have to do about Joe bidens term? People will reprimand republicans if the ecomomy sucks.

If cost of living continues to rise
Gas prices continue to rise
Essential items continue to rise
Home prices
Interest rates

Republicans will lose

 

[Outlaw]

What happened to that guy that got deported that everyone was crying about and using as a political tool

What happened to the signal chat scandal?

The media is complicit

 

[Outlaw]

What does any of this babbling have to do about Joe bidens term? People will reprimand republicans if the ecomomy sucks.

If cost of living continues to rise
Gas prices continue to rise
Essential items continue to rise
Home prices
Interest rates

Republicans will lose

The economy was better in 2024 than it is now… where are the people complaining?

 

[wire28]

What happened to the signal chat scandal?

The media is complicit

I have to stop you there. They have been doing their job, which is explaining why its actually the democrats fault

 

[King Kreole]

You made some good points, some things that I’ll think about but fundamentally we disagree on some core issues:

You have more faith in the motivations of the “progressive” talking heads and influencers than I do.

At the end of the day I think most do them are grifters and they know it’s profitable to shyt on democrats because it’s low risk high reward.

It’s also possible to criticize democrats in good faith but also go hard at republicans to ensure their audience knows who the real enemy is. Kyle Kulinski, Vaush and Cenk before his pivot did a good job of this. I’m not saying to constantly suck off the Dems, I’m saying the talking heads should beat the Republican necks 50x more than they criticize the Dems while at the same time when they criticize the Dems they should reinforce that the Dems are the better of the two. There should be no ambiguity like when Hasan said “I don’t know if Kamala will be better on Gaza than Trump” or wouldn’t fully endorse his audience to vote for her.

I think you've made some good points as well. I agree there is a class of left-wing grifters who aren't actually critically assessing the political landscape, and you can usually identify them by their refusal to admit that Republicans are worse than Democrats on any issue, or taking completely totalizing positions constantly shytting on the most left-wing Democrats. I just think you're overestimating the size of that subgroup within the entire left wing media ecosystem. Getting rid of those people will not solve the Democrat's problem because there is still a predominant faction of leftist influencers who are accurately assessing the political landscape and focusing their ire on the Democrats because they correctly see them as the party most likely to be amenable to leftist goals.

You’re wrong about the Right wing talking heads. They’re all loyal to Trump now because he’s the leader of the party but prior to Trump they were loyal to whatever Republican was in power and would not criticize them openly. They changed with whoever was in power, Tucker Carlson is a perfect example. They stay on code and know who and who not to criticize.

For god sakes Joe Rogan has Peter Thiel, CIA agents and oligarchs who said the CFPB is bad because it goes after rich people and didn’t lose any credibility with his right wing audience, the right wing podcasters are blatant shills for whatever the right wing agenda at the time is and their audience eats it up

You're confusing timeframes. The people currently running the MAGA right-wing influencer media ecosystem are not the same people who were running the pre-Trump mainstream Conservative media ecosystem. Before Trump, the Fox News center-right media figures were loyal and deferential to the Republican message but when the Tea Party rolled around it started taking Republican scalps. Eric Cantor got primaried, John Boehner and Paul Ryan were both heavily criticized by the far-right and ended up leaving party leadership. That's not "staying on code", that's taking over the party.

Joe Rogan's credibility with his audience isn't predicated on him being a dyed-in-the-wool Republican operative, it's based on him appearing anti-mainstream. He's right-coded because the Republican Party has beat the Democratic Party to the anti-mainstream branding position. There are definitely right wing podcasting/influencer shills that do the same routine as MeidasTouch and Aaron Rupar, but they're not moving the needle like the right wing podcasters/influencers like Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson who are willing to shyt on non-MAGA Republicans as well as Democrats. The media landscape structure on the left and right is actually pretty mirrored, the primary difference is that the Republican Party leaned into the new populist energy that the influencers are bringing while the Democratic Party has rejected it.