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As we continue the rebuild may we be lucky enough for the people supposedly on our side to spend their time and energy on the real problem and not left leaning influencers @Outlaw

 

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As we continue the rebuild may we be lucky enough for the people supposedly on our side to spend their time and energy on the real problem and not left leaning influencers @Outlaw


Yes let’s focus on, as Lorenz puts its “transparency” while the right wing media apparatus is radicalizing kids to be school shooters
 

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Still finding a way to shyt on Democrats, does it ever get old? :wow:
Do you have an issue with Newsom instructing people to continue Kirk's work? Do you consider it disqualifying?

Edit: if the answer is "no" to both or to one, I don't get the point in you and Loose always going back and forth trying to dunk on each other. To be ungenerous to both of your positions you don't care who gets elected as long as theyre a Democrat and he maybe wants a Democrat to run that is unelectable (I'd maybe argue that this is due to establishment corporatist democrats beholden to AIPAC undermining these candidates).

Don't see the need to shyt up this thread with the passive agressive shots at each other. Think there's a valid discussion to be had about all the candidates and the direction of the party without all the cattiness. :hubie:
 
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Also, the "why don't you say anything about Republicans" comes across as disingenuous. They are iredeemable, evil, racist, etc. I beleive the goal should be providing a legitimate alternative to that, not a more palatable version of the same thing.
 

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Do you have an issue with Newsom instructing people to continue Kirk's work? Do you consider it disqualifying?

Edit: if the answer is "no" to both or to one, I don't get the point in you and Loose always going back and forth trying to dunk on each other. To be ungenerous to both of your positions you don't care who gets elected as long as theyre a Democrat and he maybe wants a Democrat to run that is unelectable (I'd maybe argue that this is due to establishment corporatist democrats beholden to AIPAC undermining these candidates).

Don't see the need to shyt up this thread with the passive agressive shots at each other. Think there's a valid discussion to be had about all the candidates and the direction of the party without all the cattiness. :hubie:
Meh, there’s a lot of nuance here

Of course I don’t like that they’re caping for Kirk. I don’t even like the tweet Obama sent out for Kirk, or any other prominent Dem figure for that matter however I understood why they did it.

They need to come off as better than the people they represent or set the example that when a political enemy dies they can still be seen as the bigger person and eulogize someone tragically slain. (Do I personally like it? NO but I can understand the political strategy behind it) they’re neutralizing the talking point from the right that the radical left are giddy about Kirk’s death and they want republicans/ conservatives to die.

Electorally what they’re doing plays better with the median voter/independents than if they remained silent or expressed feelings that shyt on Kirk a day after he died.

Newsom and Klein are ironically playing politics but Loose ignores all nuance and uses this as a way to continue to bash democrats.

There’s nothing catty here, I was calling out something Loose does on here everyday, no matter what happens (he’ll find some type of way to shyt on democrats).

Newsom is probably one of the biggest psychopaths in the country, do you think he has genuine empathy for Kirk’s death? Or was he trying to play politics and manipulate those who are sympathetic to Kirk but would be open to voting for him?

It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to understand the true intentions of what these narcissists are trying here. You have to be purposefully obtuse or not possess second order thinking.

I do view it as disqualifying for Newsom (I won’t vote for him in the primary but I’ll still vote for him in the general) he didn’t make those statements about Kirk for democrats, he made those statements to play politics with the hope of manipulating swing voters and moderate republicans
 
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Also, the "why don't you say anything about Republicans" comes across as disingenuous. They are iredeemable, evil, racist, etc. I beleive the goal should be providing a legitimate alternative to that, not a more palatable version of the same thing.
Sounds like you’re being passive aggressive here.

Where did I say “why don’t you say anything about Republicans?”

How about you provide proper context instead of pulling a random quote out of your ass
 
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Newsom is probably one of the biggest psychopaths in the country, do you think he has genuine empathy for Kirk’s death? Or was he trying to play politics and manipulate those who are sympathetic to Kirk but would be open to voting for him?
I don't think that Newsom has earned the benefit of the doubt. I'm not interested in supporting a candidate that thinks it's politically expedient to valorize a racist to appeal to a bunch of othrt racists. There's a world of difference between "political violence has no place in our democracy or whatever" or "my thoughts are with his wife and children" and "Kirk is a great man whose work must be continued".
radical left are giddy about Kirk’s death and they want republicans/ conservatives to die.
I think there are way too many people that are indifferent/unmoved to happy that a virulent racist got back what he put out into the world to attribute this to the radical left. People that have likely never voted are partying about it.


The "why don't you talk about Republicans" wasn't directed specifically at you, it's a sentiment shared throughout the various forums on this site. Here are a few quotes from this page that I saw right now though:
Still finding a way to shyt on Democrats, does it ever get old? :wow:

may we be lucky enough for the people supposedly on our side to spend their time and energy on the real problem and not left leaning influencers

Yes let’s focus on, as Lorenz puts its “transparency” while the right wing media apparatus is radicalizing kids to be school shooters

Maybe worth noting I'm not particularly moved by the dark money thing. Now if it came out that it was AIPAC or Shell Oil that would be different. Like I said previously I think the biggest issue is all these lib "influencers" aren't really doing much influencing. But maybe their goal is to just stem the tide, but I don't know if any of them have admitted to receiving the money.
 
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Newsom and Klein are ironically playing politics but Loose ignores all nuance and uses this as a way to continue to bash democrats.

They aren’t playing politics—there’s no political game in calling white supremacy and bigotry an electoral strategy. Once you do that, your own voters start looking at you sideways. Racism is NOT politics
There’s nothing catty here, I was calling out something Loose does on here everyday, no matter what happens (he’ll find some type of way to shyt on democrats).

I call out electoral malpractice when I see it. There’s no upside to whitewashing a white supremacist legacy—say your condolences and move on. Pandering to hate isn’t strategy, it’s sabotage
Newsom is probably one of the biggest psychopaths in the country, do you think he has genuine empathy for Kirk’s death? Or was he trying to play politics and manipulate those who are sympathetic to Kirk but would be open to voting for him?

He's not playing politics hes abterible person who generally stands for nothing, we've discussed this part at ad nauseum


Im dying at you blaming the left for people laughing at Charlie kirk, generally a bad poster who is just out of touch with reality.
 

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There’s nothing more important going on than the genocide in Gaza. Lorenz should be focused completely on the Gaza beat, she should be getting the sources she needs to do more reporting on the genocide. Everything else is a distraction and waste of time. No excuses.


So are you saying the Democrats deserved to lose against Trump? Since at the time they were the ones allowing the genocide in Gaza?

And if you believe theres nothing more important than Gaza, investigating the Dems for recieving dark money makes perfect sense. Dark money would explain them completely ignoring the wishes and demands of their voting base. We know all politicians are comprimised by donors. But Democrats seem unusually compromised.:martin:

Have you ever watched an athlete play the game so unusually awful, That you start to suspect they might be illegally gambling on the game they are playing in? Or attempting to throw the game:respect:?
 

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Joe biden was a horrible person and horrible president Jesus christ. Everything we assumed was correct




I tried to tell yall Kamala was sabatogued from the jump,All because Joe wanted to run again in 2024. Despite the fact Kamala was supposed to be being groomed to takeover. The entire "dumb" narrative about her begin with Biden and his team. Kamala sadly still doesnt see this was all done under Joes orders:respect:


Only thing she did wrong was have Joe Bidens back. She shouldve thrown Biden,Obama and anybody else she had to under the bus and created a N.W.O rebellion within the party. Its really the only way for a Democrat to win. They will have to splinter their party.
 
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